# Episode 26 - Boomer Series: Lou

- Podcast: GenX Adulting Podcast
- Published: 2025-03-25T00:00:00.000Z
- Audio: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2398379/episodes/16853195-episode-26-boomer-series-lou.mp3
- Page: https://genxadultingpodcast.com/transcripts/podcasts/genx-adulting-podcast/episodes/episode-26
- Source: https://genxadultingpodcast.com/episodes/genxadultingpodcastepisode26.html
- People: Brian Barker (host), Nicole Barker (host), Lou (guest)
- Topics: Boomer Series

## Summary

In Episode 26 of the Boomer Series, Lou shares his experiences growing up as the youngest baby boomer in Queens, New York. He discusses his childhood adventures, family dynamics, and the transition from a construction worker to a stockbroker, while reflecting on the changes in societal norms and the impact of technology on younger generations.

## Key takeaways

- Lou is the last of the baby boomers, born in 1964.
- He grew up in Queens, New York, and enjoyed a carefree childhood with friends.
- Lou's father was a bricklayer and instilled a strong work ethic in him.
- He transitioned from construction to stockbroking in the 1990s.
- Lou emphasizes the importance of hard work and not settling for less in life.
- He has two daughters and believes in raising them with high self-respect and standards.
- Lou reflects on the challenges faced by younger generations in today's society.

## FAQ

### What year was Lou born?

Lou was born in 1964, making him the youngest baby boomer.

### Where did Lou grow up?

Lou grew up in Flushing, Queens, New York.

### What was Lou's profession before becoming a stockbroker?

Before becoming a stockbroker, Lou worked in construction as a bricklayer.

### How does Lou feel about the current state of New York?

Lou has a negative view of the current state of New York, citing increased crime and a loss of safety.

### What advice does Lou give to younger generations?

Lou advises younger generations to work hard and not settle for less in life.


## Referenced links

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## Transcript

[MUSIC]
Welcome to GenX Adulting.
Today we have Lou with us.
Welcome.
Hello.
Welcome to the studio.
We're happy to have you.
Happy to be here.
Thank you for having me.
Of course. Our first
question we ask everyone is,
what year were you born?
I'm the last of the baby boomers, 1964.
You are. You are the
last of the baby boomers.
Next month I'll be 61.
Wow. Okay.
You're the baby-est
baby boomer of them all.
What comes after the baby boomers?
Us.
Okay.
GenX.
GenX. Okay.
Yeah.
I missed it by one year.
You missed it by one year.
So 65 is the beginning of GenX.
Right.
So okay.
So you're actually our second boomer.
Okay.
So I'm excited.
And my mom was the other boomer,
but she was born in 1947.
Okay.
So 1946 is where boomers start.
So she's one of the oldest and then
you're the youngest.
So it'll be interesting to see if you
guys have different perspectives
on certain things that were going on
growing up because
it's such a wide range.
Because I know that
there's younger GenXers
that have different perspectives on
things than older GenXers.
So I'll be curious.
Your mom was a teenager, like when
Vietnam was going on,
you were just a baby.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She was, yeah.
Well, teenager into her early 20s.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So where were you born?
In New York.
In New York.
Flushing.
Okay.
So the city, right?
Is that the city?
It's a borough.
Well, in Queens.
Flushing is in Queens.
Okay.
It's in Queens.
Okay.
That's where I grew up.
Okay.
In the borough of Queens.
So growing up in Queens,
did you leave Queens a lot?
Or is it kind of like
you stay in your borough?
Queens is the biggest
borough of the five, I believe.
Yeah, I think it is.
And we had public transportation.
Well, I stayed in Queens until I was
probably a teenager.
Then when we were teenagers, we would
ride our bikes everywhere.
Okay.
I grew up in Met Fen.
So, and we had public transportation.
So we were out of the house eight o'clock
in the morning in the summer.
And when the street lights came on,
that's when we knew
it was time to go home.
We didn't have cell phones.
Yeah.
You know, anything like that.
So we used to take the bus to Main Street
Flushing and then either walk over the
bridge or take the seven train and go to
a Met game for a dollar and a half.
Oh my gosh.
You know, the seats were all the way up.
And then during the
national anthem, we'd sneak down.
Yeah.
You know, and we'd get kicked out.
We'd get moved around
and get out of the air.
You know, those aren't your seats.
And, but yeah, it was a
great time growing up.
So it felt safe.
Everything felt safe.
Yeah.
Now is that?
You used to use pay phones, germs.
We built up immune systems.
Did you guys like go into Manhattan or to
go to all the other boroughs?
Brooklyn, Harlem, Brooklyn, Brooklyn.
Not so much.
If I went to Coney Island, I'd go into
Brooklyn, but not so much Brooklyn.
I went into my state
in Queens and Manhattan.
OK, the Bronx.
No good.
OK. And Harlem.
And I lived right on the other side of
the Throgsnek Bridge.
OK.
In Bay Terrace.
That's where, well, in
1977, my my family moved there.
I was 12 years old.
Then I turned 13, moved to Bay Terrace.
It was like 90 percent Jewish.
So funny story.
When we first moved to Bay Terrace, I was
like 12 and I was
meeting all new friends.
So, you know, when
you're turning 13 years old.
Yeah, I was getting invited to Obama's
for every other month.
Yes. Yes.
And my father would be like another one.
Yeah. And back then they
gave like 25 or 30 bucks.
He's like, just can't you meet some
Catholic kids for Christ's sake?
Because every week is shelling out like
25, 30 dollars for me to go to Obama.
That's funny.
You didn't move us to a
Catholic day, but a dad.
Sorry. And I used to and
my family used to sit down,
eat dinner every night at six o'clock.
And I used to stroll in six thirty seven.
Where the hell we go?
I was at Hebrew school with Adam.
You used to go with them?
Oh, yeah. Yeah. My friends.
I used to sit there, tell
them my name is Mordecai Cohen.
And and and I read this
Baruch ataia de nai al hainu melacholam.
That's all I really remember.
That's like you learn something.
That's pretty good.
Well, I mean, that would have been what?
Right around middle school?
Yeah, that was that
was elementary school.
And then we didn't call it middle school.
We called the junior high.
Right. Yeah.
Okay. High school.
Yeah. I called it junior high, too.
But did you call it junior high?
OK, I think I got switched up somewhere.
So honestly, that's those
are kind of can be challenging
your socially to just
move into a new school.
So having all of the
celebrations with your Jewish friends
was probably a great
way to get make friends.
Oh, yeah. And get to know people.
Yeah. We had a great time.
Like I said, we were we
were out on our bikes.
We were playing basketball.
I grew up in a little
garden apartment in Bay Terrace.
And we all just used to, you know,
wherever the bikes were going.
That's where we go.
We all go to like a
school, an elementary school
that was like maybe a half
mile away from the apartment
that I lived in.
And we'd play
basketball, stickball all day long.
Yeah. All day long. We were active.
So you grew up playing stickball.
Yeah. That's cool.
Yeah. We've seen that
in the movies. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, we draw.
We draw a box against,
you know, the concrete wall.
That was the strike zone. Yeah.
And just, you know, throw a tennis ball
with a broom handle.
Yeah. Black tape around it.
And very arms fell off.
That's very, very cool.
So it was a very traditional like you
guys would head out in the morning,
do your thing.
Your parents really didn't know where you
were until you came back.
When the story.
We didn't have cell phones where they
track you and see where you are.
Yeah. You know, it's
just like I'm going to.
Adams, I'm going to
Michael's. I'm going here.
You know, yeah, we tell
them where we're going.
And I mean, it was it
was it was close by.
And we were always on our bicycles where
we'd stop by, you know, the house.
We wanted to get something to drink or
something and something to eat.
And then just go back out again.
Now, was your mom a stay at home mom?
For. I'd say the first 13 years of my
life, I have two older sisters.
OK, so yes, she was in the beginning.
I had a traditional upbringing in
Flushing before I moved to Bayside from
when I was born till 12 years old, lived
in a two family house.
My grandmother and
grandfather lived on the bottom. Nice.
And we lived on the top, had the clothes
lying outside of my
bedroom to hang the clothes on.
Yeah. Yeah. And I would go downstairs.
My grandmother made she rest in peace.
She I think by the time I was five, six
years old, drinking coffee and eating.
You need a biscuits with butter. Amazing.
And dipping, dipping the biscuits and
butter in my coffee.
Amazing. Yeah.
But to grow up with that
multi-generational experience,
I personally think is
priceless. It is. It is.
It's amazing. Yeah.
But probably the
stories that she told you
or just even spending that time with her
with your grandparents.
Yeah, completely help form who you are.
I'm sure, you know. Yeah.
So then that was from when
you were born till you were 12.
Till I was 12. Right.
Then they bought the garden and my
parents bought the garden
apartment and bay terrace.
Now, is bay terrace also in Queens?
Yeah, Bayside, Queens. Yeah.
It's on the it's on the other side of
Throgs Neck Bridge from the Bronx.
And then so were your grandparents?
You were then living how far away from
them when you guys moved?
Oh, 15 minute car ride.
So would you still see
them pretty regularly?
Oh, yeah, I would ride my bike and go.
It was like maybe a half hour bike ride
and I'd go and and, you
know, go visit them. Sure.
OK, so you were it was that safe that you
could just get on your bike
and ride your bike for 30 minutes to go
see your grandparents.
Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah.
When you think about it then and.
What 1977 New York had the blackout.
Son of Sam running around
New York killing people.
Yeah. But, you know, I mean, that that
time when when Son of Sam
was running around New York.
I mean, I was still too young to go.
I was seven, four,
five. I was 13 years old.
It wasn't like I was going to clubs and I
had to worry about getting shot.
Yeah. Yeah. My old sister did, though,
because she was like
three years older than me.
Right. So, you know, she
she and he killed someone
that was at a club that my
sister used to go to frequently.
But it's crazy.
We had the blackouts, we had Son of Sam,
but you felt safe. It wasn't.
I used to take the subway from Main
Street into Times Square, Manhattan
just to ride it when I was
13 or 14 years old. Yeah.
And I used to stand in the front car
right near the conductor.
Yeah. And just, you know, because I was
fascinated by like the tracks
and pulling into the stations and seeing
the people on the platform.
No one worried about getting pushed onto
a train track and getting murdered.
Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. It's
just were you alone or
you and your friends?
No, I went with like, you
know, one or two other friends.
OK, so you guys and your
parents knew you were doing that.
You're heading into Times Square.
Sometimes. Sometimes.
I think he has some stories from Jersey.
So I think he has some of those stories
going into the city.
Where your parents didn't know.
We didn't go down the Hoboken catch the
path over into New York.
Right. Go around the city and just take
the reverse path back home.
It seems to be the thing
that kids growing up there
would do that
sneaking into the city stuff.
I think what you're picturing, though,
you picture Manhattan
because that's most of
your exposure point. Yeah.
But where you grew up was probably a lot
of neighborhoods, right?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I was picturing things.
It sounds so cliche,
things I've seen in movies.
When I picture Queens or Brooklyn, it's
how it's been depicted in movies,
which is neighborhoods and the clothes
line and all of that.
So then so your sisters, your one one is
three years older than you.
What about your other sister?
Fifteen months. Oh, I
was twins. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. My mother had three
kids by the time she was 23.
Wow. OK, so how did your parents meet?
I think two friends. I don't know.
I don't. My old sister could tell you,
but I probably through friends.
Were they both from Flushing?
My father grew up in
Astoria, I believe it was.
And my mother, yes. OK.
And what's the background?
Italian. Yeah.
Italian, southern Italian, Sicilian.
Were they my father's
family was from Sicily.
My grandmother's was from Sardinia, a
little island off of Sicily.
And where you've been there,
you've never been to Italy?
No. Wow.
So is that something on your bucket list?
I think so. Maybe. That'd be cool.
So was your grandparents,
were they first generation?
Yeah. And so your parents were second and
your third generation.
Yeah. So did they get if your
mom had all three of you by 23,
how old were they when they got married?
2021 young, they were
young. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, I think back then
that was common, though, right?
Then they got divorced after 30 years.
Oh, my God. That's common, too.
We've actually done
some episodes on that.
So what did your dad do?
My dad was a bricklayer.
My dad, my dad's dad, my grandfather died
when my father was nine years old.
And he had a mother who.
Was an immigrant, heavy accent, didn't
really know anything.
She was a stay at home mom.
He had three sisters, so he had to get to
be the man of the house.
So did his dad pass
away here or in Italy?
New York. In New York.
So they made it over here. Yeah.
And then had their family.
Oh, yeah, obviously he was here.
And then when your dad was nine years old
and he had three older sisters. Yeah.
So she had these four kids
and was a stay at home mom.
So your dad at what age nine, nine, nine
years old. Yeah. And.
Was figuring out how to make money at
that age. Yeah. Wow.
He had the hustle. Wow.
And so and so he's a bricklayer.
So for younger generations who've never
even heard of that, what is a bricklayer?
What do they do? Builds walls and
reinforces buildings block.
It's not just not just brick that you
see, like you might see a brick house.
Right. But then, you know, houses are
built with block reinforcement bar
and, you know, just mortar and concrete.
And they work hard. OK.
So what areas of New
York would he work in?
Manhattan, Queens, all
the five boroughs. OK.
He was in the union. I
was going to ask you.
Yeah, he was in a local
41, I think it was called.
And and he was talented.
Then he was a bricklayer form.
And so he didn't like, you know, like
when he was like 40, 45,
he would just stand there and force the
guys. Right. Right. Right.
And that's what you want to get. Yeah.
And then when I was
younger, he would bring me on jobs.
Who would stack the
scaffolds with brick and block and
he'd pay me like 100 bucks a day and and
mix the mortar for the bricklayers.
And was this when you were like a
teenager? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Like 16 years old. Nice.
And that's what I did in the summer, too.
I didn't go to sleepaway camp.
I just like made money.
I wanted my own money because I wanted to
go do my own things, you know,
and I wanted to go to Met Games.
I didn't want to get a
dollar 50 seats anymore.
You know, I wanted to
get good seats. Yeah. Yeah.
Then work, you know,
and and I didn't know.
Would most of your
friends also do the same?
When you mentioned sleepaway camp for
most of them going
away for sleepaway camp.
When I moved to Bayside,
yeah, like and they were like 13.
They would go away to a sleepaway camp up
coaches in the
Catskills, the Porsche belt.
Called it Porsche belt.
And then.
Another funny story, when I was 15.
Me and two of my friends got jobs as
ushers in a movie theater.
Right in the Bay Terrace movie theater,
we were able to walk to work.
Making minimum wage, two
dollars and 90 cents an hour.
Amazing bow tie, red jacket, right?
Smoking section is upstairs.
That a smoking section in
the movie theaters back then.
And and we did that.
My sister worked behind the counter.
The candy counter. Yeah. Yeah.
And God forgive me
for telling this story.
And minimum wage just
wasn't cutting it, then.
Me and my friend just go into the aisles
and take the uncrushed popcorn cups,
tubs, rinse them out, dry them.
Give them back to my
sister concession stand
and she would refill them with popcorn
and give us money for doing that.
So it's like a tub of
popcorn was like three dollars.
And we'd give her like 10 of them. Right.
Thirty dollars. Right.
Right. Right. Extra. Right.
Because back then they had re
did they have reusable tubs?
Is that what they were?
They were cardboard.
I mean, OK. OK. Crush them up.
You know, you couldn't reuse
them, but most of the people,
they didn't even finish their popcorn.
Big tubs of cardboard. Right.
They put on the seat next to them.
And then we would have
to go in the movie theater
and like clean out the theaters. You
know. Right. Right. Right.
Get the popcorn tubs and throw them out
or or give them back to her.
So you might be into a crime right now.
It's not true.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It's like 1970, whatever.
You're good. You're good. You're good.
So they would track what
was sold based on the carton.
So then you can. Right.
Yeah. Inventory on the soda.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
That's funny. Yeah, that is funny.
And then.
I did that from age 15 to 17.
And I got fired from the movie theater
because I used to stand outside.
My friend Adam was at
the door ripping tickets.
Like people buy tickets
from the booth right outside.
And then you'd go and you give it to the
usher and he'd rip the tickets in half.
And yeah, say theater to is your movie.
Yeah, I used to stand outside and see a
boyfriend and a girlfriend coming in.
I was like, hey, you two want to get in
for $10 for the both of you?
Instead of like, you know,
$13 a fee, you want to save $5?
They're like, yeah, yeah. OK.
Give me your money.
Tell the doorman.
Lou said it's OK.
And the manager used to
come into the theater.
She's like, I don't understand.
We only sold 50 tickets and it's like 80
people, 100 people in the theater.
Oh, so that's hilarious.
So then one day I'm standing outside
and they asked a couple
if they want to get in.
Yeah, it was the manager's
sister and her boyfriend.
No, I never knew who she was.
And I can we see in the office, please?
And I was like, you're fired.
Get out of here.
How old were you when
you were doing this?
Seventeen. So that was the best thing
that ever happened to me, because
I had just got my driver's license and
some guy who lived up the block from me.
He's like, you work in
the movie theater anymore?
I said, no, I just got fired.
And I told him this story.
He's like, you want to park cars with me?
I go where? So North Shore
Statehouse out on Long Island.
Big high end steakhouse.
I had my driver's
license for three weeks.
I was parking Mercedes Benz Rolls Royce.
There was there was a I don't know if you
ever heard of Pergamon.
It was it was an
electrical outlet called Pergamon.
They sold washing machine.
It's kind of like a brand
smart, but brand smart estate.
But it was called Pergamon back then.
I used to park Mr.
Pergamon's Rolls Royce.
His wife used to pull
up in her Mercedes 450.
I saw I had my
license for like two weeks.
Were you driving out to the restaurant?
Yeah, my father let me borrow his car.
And was that like a long commute for you
to get out there from Queens?
So this isn't great.
No, it was only 15, 20 minutes.
OK, so that's not right up
right up northern Boulevard.
And then you're parking
all these expensive cars.
And I was making good money.
100 bucks a night.
Did you have any issues?
Did you accidentally ding anybody's car?
Of course.
Did they know?
Yeah, yeah.
You know, you had to tell him like
because, you know, when you park a car
so close together, you have
to keep the wheels straight.
You can't have the wheels cut because
when you back them out fast,
you're going to hit the car
next to that a couple of times.
Yeah. I don't know.
You ever hear of Alan King?
He was a comedian back in the day.
He did Roast.
I think so. Alan King.
He was yeah, he was famous.
He lived in King's Point.
I locked his keys in his car one night.
He was a famous guy.
He used to come in all the time
and I had to drive him back to his
mansion in King's Point with my car
and then bring him back.
There's no way.
Yeah, so you can get another set of keys.
Did you see any other celebrities?
We're going to the old
Yankees used to come in there.
Whitey Ford came in with Billy Martin.
He's the Yankee guy.
OK, I saw Whitey Ford, Billy Martin and.
Um.
Garreg or someone like that?
No, it was whoever
played with them back then.
It was like the threesome.
They they'll they shut the I'll never
forget they shut the
steak house down that night.
They were drinkers.
Yeah, they were.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, so how long did you do that?
I did that.
I did that for early 20s in the 18th and
21 till about I was 22.
OK, so I was working
construction during the day.
I went to community college.
Right.
I was going to say
you went to high school.
I yeah.
And then you graduated.
I went to community college.
Right.
I was taking liberal arts and OK.
You know, I think back then I was like.
I kind of feel this way today.
Maybe it's wrong.
I think college is a good
way to go if you have a path.
Like if you want to be a lawyer or a
doctor, but I don't know, maybe
maybe like a trade school is the way to
go in this day and age.
Yeah.
I think I would have done that back then.
Like if I knew when I
then what I know now.
Yeah.
Like maybe.
Be an apprentice of as an electrician for
three or four years,
and then you could open up
your own electrical company
and become a multimillionaire.
Yeah. You know what I mean?
I know plumbers who are
worth 50 million dollars.
Yeah. Yes.
They're saying that we are
going to be in dire need of trade.
Yeah.
And I think in the next five to 10 years,
we're going to need like
so many welders.
We have a welder shortage and plumbers
and we want to be a TikTok star, though.
Well, yeah.
You know, you know, you
know, making 50,000 a month.
Yeah. You know, but not everybody.
We're on the list of not everybody.
Not everybody, not
everybody, but not but not everybody.
But unfortunately, with the way social
media is for the younger generations,
they it feels like everybody.
So everybody thinks they can do it.
Not really. It's kind of
like probably back in our day,
how everyone thought they could go to
Hollywood and become an actress.
But it's such a small percentage. Right.
So there's just that there isn't a
balance of reality in there.
And I think social media
is 100 percent to do that.
So so I went to community college.
I was I was working
construction during the day then.
And I was parking cars at night.
I was. That's what
you're busy in my early 20s.
I was I was I was taking home
a couple of thousand a week.
Yeah. And my money back.
A lot of money back.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Back in 82, 83.
Yeah. Yeah. Nice Mazda RX7 sports.
I remember that.
The only thing my father
did for me, my father would
maybe another crime I'm admitting to my
father would put the car
in car insurance under his name because
so it wouldn't be so expensive.
But yeah, I paid my own car
insurance for my own car payment.
You know, yeah.
Were you living with them after high
school while you were doing all this?
Yeah, I was.
And I was the last one in the in the
apartment with them.
That's when they started like arguing.
My parents, I told you
they got divorced. Yeah. Yeah.
And I said to them, I was like, Why don't
you guys get divorced?
You got that bad sleep in the same room.
You know, like, yeah, just, you know,
it's like and they did. Yeah.
And so how did they were both happier?
You know, how that affects you and your
sisters, where you grew up with them
married and this traditional family.
And then you guys are young adults and
your parents are divorced.
How did that alter you guys?
No, no, it didn't affect us.
You don't want to see them fight.
I mean, they were able
to stay in the same room
when my sister had when my sisters had,
you know, their kids
and they were young and
they'd have birthday parties.
My mother and father, you
know, they were they were civil.
They did come to their grand
granddaughter or grandson's birthday
party and sit in the
same room. Hi, how are you?
You don't talk, you know. Right.
And I mean, they're both gone now.
Did they have other
relationships after my father?
My father did.
My mother, I guess she just dated.
She didn't have anyone serious, but did
they stay living in the same area?
No, my father moved to Long Island City,
which is just outside of Manhattan.
OK, this girlfriend.
And then your mom
stayed in the apartment.
Yeah, she stayed in the apartment.
OK. And what about your sisters?
Did they go to school to college?
My older sister did.
And my younger sister went to School of
Visual Arts in Manhattan.
OK, cool. She's into
the cameras and all that.
OK, cool. Yeah.
She she lives in Nashville, Tennessee.
Nice. Not in the city.
She lives about 30
minutes north of the city. Yeah.
And her husband, my brother-in-law is.
Such a talented illustrator.
I mean, this guy, you could just tell
him, draw me Mickey Mouse
and Donald Duck shaking hands.
And in like 10 minutes, he'll have like
like he's worked for Disney
like his whole life.
He's just people like that.
Is his his daughter,
my niece is like that.
She she builds murals.
She's she paints murals, sorry, on the
side of restaurants in Nashville.
And that's cool. She. Yeah.
And it's amazing. But they're artistic.
Is your sister artistic as well?
Well, I guess she went to the school.
Yes, she went to the
she went to the school.
Yes, she likes, you
know, a good photographer.
OK, she's she's not like a good drawer.
All right. But still,
photography is an art.
So they're an
artistic family. Yeah. Yeah.
And then your other sister, my sister
lives in South Jersey, Ocean, New Jersey.
OK, so she's right near
Asbury Park and Great Adventure.
I think she lives like 10 minutes away
from Great Adventure.
Yeah. Yeah.
And she's been living there a long time.
Are you so close with
them? Oh, yeah. That's great.
Yeah. So then when your parents divorced,
it kind of allowed them to create
this civil relationship where you guys
went through your adulthood.
You could still, like you
said, have them at weddings.
Yeah. Gathering. Oh, yeah.
And it was so very healthy.
My mom passed before my father did.
And even my wife to this
day, she can't believe like
my father was at the funeral home every
day supporting his kids.
I get like a little well.
Yeah, of course, of course.
And but that says a lot right there.
Yeah, that's a lot
right there about that.
They were able to still have that
functional
relationship, even post divorce.
So and did she when you said your mom
went to work when you were 13,
what did she do? Oh, she worked.
She worked at Flushing Hospital when
it's something
clerical Flushing Hospital.
And you know what?
I don't know if I partied
too much when I was younger,
but my sisters
remember so much more stuff
like when we were younger and and they're
like, what are you doing?
I was like, oh, smoke a pot. Yeah.
You know, I.
Well, let's see, you would have been when
you were a teenager.
This would have been
what, the 70s, late 70s?
Yeah, I was born in 64.
So 74. Yeah. Late 70s.
Seventy seven. I was
13, 78. I was 14. Yeah.
Yeah. So it's those
late 70s, early 80s. Yeah.
The first time I was able to vote was
Ronald Reagan's second term.
What was that? Eighty
four. I think I was 20. Yeah.
I was 20. I was 20 and 84.
So so growing up in the 70s, because we
would have been young.
We would have been like
five, six, seven, eight. Yeah.
In the 70s. You were in
the party years in the 70s.
Well, I was a teenager.
I was a teenager. Right.
You were in your early, but you would
have been doing what teenagers do.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, smoke,
mental, cigarette. Yeah.
All of that. What would have been like
for us going to parties
would have been either a house party or
like in a field somewhere.
What were parties like for you guys?
I'm not we used to go like under the
Throgs Neck Bridge, light fire.
Because you had the border right there,
the Long Island Sound right there.
It was nice. Yeah. Someone's house. Yeah.
And some of these bar
mitzvahs were like at clubs,
you know, that we
weren't old enough to go to.
There was a there was a whole called
Lenders of Great Neck.
That was like a big catering hall.
They had two floors and like two big
rooms on the second floor.
Two big rooms on the first floor.
So that's cool. Yeah.
You guys got to go there.
I mean, you were really
the music then was insane.
Did you go to nothing like the
80s now or or even 70s? Yeah.
Well, I was I was telling you,
I was been in the 70s for me.
It was I was a
headbanger. I like rock and roll.
That's why I love all the
instruments around here.
It was Kiss. Yeah.
I like Kiss and Led Zeppelin and The Who.
And then like in the early 80s, I got
into, you know, it was Aerosmith.
And and and then the
hair bands, Motley Crue.
Yeah. Yeah. Poison and like Twists.
Like Twists. Yeah.
The Twists. The Twists.
I used to go and see at Queens College
when I was like 17 years old.
That's amazing.
So did you see most of those bands live?
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Really?
When they were first
starting out, Van Halen.
Did you see Zeppelin at the Garden?
I did not know. I did not.
I saw The Who with the Garden. OK.
At in 79. That would have been crazy.
Yeah, that was a great show.
I didn't I didn't see Zeppelin.
That was they came to the
garden. I think that was 77.
So four or five. I was 13 years old.
I guess I my father
started driving me to concerts.
So maybe like when I
was 14 or 15 years old.
And that's cool, though, right?
But he did that. No, yeah.
Because probably not
every parent was doing that.
Yeah. He used to drive us
out to the National Coliseum.
We used to. Oh, God, I did a lot of jobs.
I got to retire soon.
I remember, you know, we
used to do when we were like 16.
This is a crazy story, you
know, talking about earlier
we used to get on our bicycles.
I had a friend of mine.
His sister used to date a ticket scalper.
He used to pay us a hundred dollars.
We used to go to Penn
Station in Manhattan
and stay up all night, get
there at 11 o'clock at night.
So we were the first
ones online. Oh, yeah.
And Ticketmaster would
open up at nine o'clock.
And then we would get first, second,
third row seats in this guy.
We'd give us money and he
would pay us a hundred dollars.
Our parents didn't care.
I was with like, you
know, five or six other guys.
Yeah. And we were in Penn Station from 11
at night to like nine in the morning.
Like, yeah. On a Friday.
Did you bring like, did
you sit there all night?
Or did you bring like sleeping bags?
Or did you guys just sit there?
Yeah, no, we sat there and we had coffee
and stuff like that.
But no, we stayed up.
How old were you?
Probably like 16.
And like during the summer.
Yeah. It wasn't like we
weren't skipping school.
Right. You know, sit online
so this guy can make money.
But he was paying us 100 bucks.
But that's back when the days when you
had to go to an actual ticket booth
to buy a paper ticket
in line for a big guy.
And people would wait
overnight to try to get tickets.
Like when you said you waited online,
it's like people are
going to automatically
think online on the Internet.
It's like, no, no, you were
in a line physically waiting.
Yeah. You know, by the
time Ticketmaster opened up,
we were right at the
beginning of the line.
There were there were
200 people behind us.
Right. You know, 300 people.
Yeah. And that's yeah.
That's back when ticket
scalpers had to work for it, too.
Yeah. They'd have to hire like people
like you to do it or whatever.
Now it's just an online
hack more than anything else.
And they didn't have I don't remember
them having ticket limits, did they?
Couldn't you just go by
like 100 or something?
No, I know. Yeah, there were limits.
Maybe four or eight or something.
Yeah, I think it was like eight.
It wasn't it was only four.
It was it was a decent amount.
Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, you have you have
you're paying six guys
I could get eight
tickets each. Yeah. Yeah.
You know, it's like 40, 40. Yeah. Yeah.
So no, I mean, if I could go back in
time, that time frame
is when I would want to see live music.
Yeah. Because I think that's when you saw
everybody in their prime.
I saw Van Halen open up for Journey at
the Rits in New York.
That's amazing.
And yeah. And people were like, after Van
Halen went off stage,
I was like, I don't
think I want to see Journey.
Yeah. I was like, who the
hell were those guys? Yeah.
But see Perry, his voice. Oh,
it's on the journey was great.
Yeah, I just saw Journey.
I've seen Journey like five or
six times, but I just saw them
with my wife on this
last tour, them, the Amaran.
How are they now?
Because they're all right.
You know, you know, 65,
70 years old, you know.
But the lead singer isn't on el teneta.
He's like from
Thailand or something. Yeah.
How does he do that?
OK, he's been with the band
like 15, 20 years. Yeah. Yeah.
But coming from someone who saw them at
the beginning and then to
they'll never be a voice 60.
No, no. Yeah.
You know, you're going to replace Stephen
Tyler and Aerosmith with someone.
Right. Right. No, no.
So did you ever see the Grateful Dead?
No, I didn't.
But I had a lot of friends who used to
you know, when they when they would do
10 nights at the garden. Yes.
Ten nights. Yes. Yes.
And I used to wait on that line and get
my friends, boyfriend
tickets for the dead.
That's funny.
You know, I like the Grateful Dead.
I was like more of like,
you know, touch of gray.
Casey Jones. Yeah.
They're famous songs. Yeah.
Now that they have the span fish.
That's like a fan. Yeah.
Yeah. It's been around for a while.
Yeah. For a while. They're very. Yeah.
They're a huge fan.
There's so many jam bands now. But yeah,
I, you know, I think like
I think the Grateful Dead for me, maybe
they would they would
talented AF musicians. Yes.
I don't know.
I just wasn't into that whole I'm going
to drop a tab of acid
and go see the dead and you know, and
just and go on the journey.
The long ride of the
campaign. Yeah. Yeah.
I think they were too
mellow for me. Yeah.
I kind of like the plug, the less Paul
into a stack of Marshall amps and right.
And go. Yeah. You ever see ACDC?
Of course. Yeah. OK. Yeah.
Yeah. So you saw them all like those are
going to see them next month.
Oh, that's cool. Yeah. That's very cool.
So then you're hustling, working,
going to community
college into your early 20s.
And when your parents
divorced, where did you live then?
Oh, then I moved.
Then I moved. Like I told
you, I was making good money.
Yeah. Got a roommate.
Move to Little Neck, Queens.
Another like another
suburb of Queens on a suburb.
Yeah, suburb of Queens, Little Neck right
near the train station.
Had a roommate. Nice two
bedroom, two bath apartment.
I don't know, maybe
like 1800 square foot.
I think we paid $900 a month. Wow.
The 450 each. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And that's a huge
apartment, though, for that.
I don't know how Queens is.
I know in Manhattan,
people live in closets.
Oh, yeah. But Queens, I
think in Brooklyn and the Bronx,
you probably get a lot
more apartment for your money.
Yeah. But I mean, this day and age is not
like, you know, you know what?
Queens is like probably like Raway, where
my uncle Mickey lived.
Remember that? Yes.
That's kind of a Queens vibe.
And yeah, that makes sense.
You ever see the King of Queens?
The show, the houses
are right. Like, yes.
Yeah. It's like that. It's like that.
Yeah. That's my perspective, because I
think when we lived in Jersey,
we never went over there.
I don't think. No, I think we went to
Long Island once the Bronx.
Yeah. But to see the Yankees.
But we were in Manhattan a lot. Right.
Because we had the kids
and I would take them.
It's almost it's kind of like near the
the Nassau neighborhood.
Right. We were at East Meadow. Yeah.
Italian place we went
to was in East Meadow.
So yeah.
And Queens, where I grew up, the side was
at the steakhouse that I parked.
Cars was was in Nassau County.
It was a 15 minute ride. OK. OK. Yeah.
You know, just to go back
to the music real quick,
one of the best Grateful Dead shows was
at the Nassau Coliseum.
Yeah. Yeah. I missed it.
I did. So when you were in this
apartment, were you what
were you doing for work?
I was working construction.
You were still
working in general contract.
They had big general contractor called
Herbert Construction.
I used to I used to get on the Long
Island railroad train
into Manhattan in the morning
and do that.
I did that until I
was about 20 years old.
Were there any buildings in Manhattan you
worked on that were like big skyscrapers?
I worked, you know, we did a lot of
apartment work. I worked in.
I think his name is John
Leon has his son, John has.
Leon has used to own the
New York Jets football team.
OK. Before Woody Johnson
owns and I think Leon has before
Woody Johnson, but and I used to work in
these Fifth Avenue apartments.
Opulent like. Yeah.
They were houses.
And I'm like, how is
this apartment so big?
It was. Yeah.
They were like 10,000
square foot apartments.
And they were not.
I mean, we did work in the
in the World Trade Center,
you know, when when when a company would
want to refurbish their office.
And by the way, I've worked in the Empire
State Building, but not on
like any buildings that became famous.
Right. Right. Right. Like
what is it called now that that replaced
the World Trade Center?
Freedom Tower. Freedom Tower. Yeah. Yeah.
I do that from the ground up.
But you were in Manhattan and I was in
Manhattan a lot. Yeah.
You were doing work in Manhattan.
And how long did you do that?
It's like eight years.
OK, so through your 20s. Yeah. Then.
There's another funny story.
See, Nate told me to come
on here because of my story.
So then
I was dating a girl four years older than
me from the time I
was 20 years old to 24.
So I was 20. She was 24.
Then I dated her for four years.
So I was 24. She was 28.
She started putting a little too much
pressure on me, you know.
You know, I'm not getting any younger. So
yeah, I had to break up with her.
That's hilarious.
I broke up with her right before
Christmas and her
apartment was on the second floor.
And she bought me like a
ski coat for Christmas.
She threw it out the second week.
Take your fucking
Christmas presents. I don't want.
She started throwing my
Christmas stuff out the window.
Did she not have any idea?
Did you just bring that on her?
Or like we just like,
oh, we need to break up.
Or were you guys having problems?
Or were you just like?
No, no. Once once I started feeling the
pressure, I'm like, I'm not ready.
I'm not ready for this.
We were 24.
I wasn't going to
string her on any longer.
And that's good.
I wouldn't tell you.
Oh, my gosh.
Preach, because I'm telling you now this
younger men will do that.
They'll string them and
they'll take away their baby years.
Yeah. So at least you were man enough to
say to know what was better for her.
You weren't going to give her what she
needed in that moment.
Right. So at least you made it.
I was having too much
fun. I was making money.
I was, you know, I loved the girl, but,
you know, I just wanted to have fun.
I didn't want to
settle down and get married.
Yeah. So I broke up
with her when I was 24.
I still work in construction.
And then like, I don't know, a year or
two later, I met this other girl
that became my girlfriend for
like two or three years and.
Shared problems, a little
bit of free base problems.
But anyway, so.
I moved into I was going to buy her
mother's house in
Garden City, Long Island.
And because her mother was retiring and
her sister moved to Kentucky
and her mother was going to Kentucky to
live with the other sister.
I'm like, you know what?
I'm going to buy this house and we'll
move in like we were kind of serious.
But she just I shouldn't say
a little free based problem.
It's like being a little
pregnant, but it was fucked up.
I didn't I didn't
dabble in any of that shit.
I mean, I'm not saying
I didn't try cocaine.
I did. But smoking it.
No, that's the next level.
I tried that once and I thought my heart
was going to explode.
And I was like, I prayed to God.
I was like, please, if you don't kill me
tonight, I will never do this again.
I swear. Yes. OK.
That's in the 80s, right?
Yeah. So this is like big coke decade.
Oh, yeah. Coke decade
and crack and crack crack.
All of it. All of it.
So what did you do?
All of it. All of it. So what is the difference between
snorting coke and smoking it?
Would you say? Oh, God, I
don't know that smoking it.
It goes right into your lungs
and it just makes your heart.
I don't know. I don't know.
I only did it once and I couldn't do it.
It was not enjoyable at all. No.
It was just stress.
No. And even even snorting the cocaine.
Yeah. Yeah. Wasn't I never.
I snorted a lot of
cocaine with some guys. Yeah.
And. I never the next day,
if I even went to sleep,
whenever I went to sleep, right?
The next day or two said,
Oh, God, I feel so good.
I'm so glad I snorted that
cocaine was what a great night.
I was paranoid.
I forget to be like, I
wouldn't leave the house.
My eyes would be like this.
I couldn't go out in public because my
face would like show this fucking
guys fucked up, you know?
Yeah. Yeah.
I got a problem.
I couldn't talk. I was like, Lockjaw.
I used to call Lockjaw.
I'm like, I think I
still call it that. Yeah.
Yeah. I was like, it
was not a good experience.
Yeah. And it's expensive, right?
Well, I think it was.
I don't know about now.
Well, it wasn't that expensive.
I mean, you know, it was
just it was it was a bad drug.
One one thing that's different.
Well, now you have to worry about it
being cut with fentanyl.
People are dying. You
can't take anything today.
Yeah. They're doing a
line and dying. Yeah.
It's ridiculous. Yeah.
I would not take
anything except for my doctor.
Yeah. You know, yeah.
No, my pharmacist, the public.
You don't know. You don't know.
I think back then in the
80s, you didn't have to.
It was even a pill like the year.
Some would be like here.
Oh, you want something
to help you sleep here?
Take this. Yeah. Help you sleep.
And it could be I'm not going to take a
pill from anyone that now,
maybe in Advil, but, you know, yeah.
But I'm not taking anything that.
Yeah. It's just white.
And they say, yeah, I'll help you sleep.
Because I think there's an ex
that also has fentanyl in it.
Yeah. Well, died from that.
So it's like it's a totally different
game for the younger generation.
What I'll go to my doctor and
say, I have trouble sleeping.
Give me some alprazolum or Xanax.
And right. He'll give it to me.
And it's straight from
your doctor. Right. Yeah.
I know where it's coming from.
You know, it's never do that.
But so you guys didn't move into the
house together, though.
You decided not to.
So I get my friend, Michael.
I'm still friends with this day.
Get a U-Haul truck.
Moved all my stuff out of the apartment.
I was sharing with this other guy.
Moved it into her mother's house.
And I'm putting the bed together, putting
the dresser together.
She's like, I'm going
to my friend's house.
I'm like, OK, you
know, put the bed together.
This bitch didn't come
home for the whole night.
I woke up in her mother's house.
She didn't come home.
It was like 6 30 in the morning.
I'm not a good sleep. I'd
never been a good sleep.
I only I'm the type of person
where when I was going out with my
friends when we were like 17, 18, 19, 20,
we'd stay out till three,
four or five in the morning.
Yeah, I would be up at 10
o'clock calling them up saying,
it's beautiful. Let's go to Jones Beach.
You know, we get one of those friends.
And I had friends who
could sleep 12 hours.
So I guess I can't. I mean, I'm fine.
We just got home five
hours ago. You're a maniac.
So five, if I get six hours sleep
straight, that's like,
wow, I'm like ready to go.
Right. So so so I woke up
at like 6 30 in the morning.
She never came home,
called my friend Michael up.
I go, I'm getting a U-Haul truck, moved
in on Saturday, moved out on Sunday.
No way. Yeah. Michael's
like, what are you crazy?
We just moved all that shit in yesterday.
I'm like, we're moving it out today.
And I was like 28 years old and I was
going to like some changes in my life
that I get to in a second. So.
I bought it to my mother's house.
She had a garage in Bayside.
So by the time I got back there with my
friend, Michael, with the U-Haul truck,
she was there crying,
don't leave, don't leave.
I'm like, I'm done. Where was she?
Did you ever she's had a
friend's house smoking cocaine?
Oh, OK.
You know, so.
So that's when you probably knew this
isn't going to work.
I'm like, yeah, this is.
You're not wife material. Yeah. Yeah.
So, you know, I dated
her for like two years.
And so we moved it out, moved all the
stuff back in my mother's house.
And well, not in my mother's
house, put it in the garage.
And then I had friends.
Then I'm like 27, 20.
So I'm like, yeah, this
construction, you know,
it's kind of like boring.
I had friends who were
stock brokers. Right.
So one of them sounded like he had
marbles in his mouth.
Guys knocking down $40,000 a month. Wow.
I'm like, so now I
broke up with my girlfriend.
My Mazda RX-7 got stolen.
I moved back home with my mother in
Bayside. I was 20 years old.
Yeah. So I really had nowhere to go.
I just, you know, I was
moving with this girl.
I wasn't going to stay at a hotel. You
know, I'm like, right.
I'm like, Ma, you got to let me like just
move in with you until I find the place.
She was fine. Oh, yeah.
She's like, I love it. Yeah.
Yeah. Come back. Oh, yeah.
I moved back home and my car
got stolen from the street.
I got no car. I got no girl.
I'm like living at home.
I think I'll become a stockbroker.
So I had some friends like,
hey, come work at our firm.
And I took my series seven.
Like I went to community college now.
Now the shoving
economics 2000 down my throat.
Yeah. It wasn't an easy test. So.
It took me about six or seven months.
Then I was I was only
getting paid $250 a week, making
four or five hundred calls a day for me
for a senior broker to get him leads.
I like to say, hey, Mr.
Jones, can I send you out some
information on my company?
And, you know, and then maybe have a
senior broker call you
back in like three weeks
when we have an idea. Yeah.
So that's yeah.
I was only getting paid $250 a week.
I was lucky I made enough money, you
know, that I had a nice little nest egg.
And you were you were living
with your mom still, right?
But were you in
Manhattan doing that? No, no, no.
I was doing the stockbroking. Yeah.
Yeah. But I was in Bayside. You're right.
I moved back home to Bayside.
I used to think going on
railroad into Manhattan.
But working in Manhattan.
Yes. Like we own right on Wall Street.
Well, yeah. OK.
So I was a pitching wedge away from the
New York Stock Exchange.
Down by the bull. Yeah. Yeah.
So you're so how long you did that, like
six or seven months?
And then I got my series seven.
I got my I was a licensed broker.
Then I had to open up like 30
accounts for my senior broke
until I can go out on my own.
I did that in like a month.
I was pretty good at it. And
I'm a good talker.
I like to talk and yeah.
And I did that in what?
90s, the Clinton days where everything
you bought that come would go up.
Yeah. Yeah. You made your money.
You know, Yahoo dot com
by going, you know. Mm hmm.
So we we did good then.
And then what did I do that for?
I did that till about 2005.
So then then about 2000, 2004, 2005.
I don't know if you remember this.
They used to have every
other commercial on TV.
It's well, it seemed like to
me because I was a stockbroker.
It was like, did you
lose money in the market?
We're Cohen and Cohen and
we're on a contingency basis.
We don't make money until you make money
and sue your broker, sue your broker.
So when you would get a complaint like if
I had a customer in California
that said, hey, Lou Faux lost me $40,000.
Now, now there was a thing back then if
you would settle for under five,
then you'd have to get this was like
legalized extortion.
Because. If you settle for
less than five thousand dollars,
it doesn't go on your you for it was
like, you know, your permanent record
or whatever you call it. Yeah. Yeah.
So I would talk to a lawyer like, OK,
what's it going to cost us
to fly out to California?
So now you got to pay a lawyer.
You got to pay for his plane ticket.
You got to get him a hotel room.
And he's like, it's going to cost us like
ten thousand dollars
if we're going to be out there a day or
two to fight this. Right.
Offer him four thousand
five hundred dollars to settle.
Some of them did. Some of them didn't.
And I had four guys who didn't.
I had to fly to California.
I had to fly to Texas.
People that were suing me
because they lost money.
I won every single one of those cases
because I was like an aggressive trader.
I was like trading
people's money on margin.
But I had them sign paper.
I was like, listen, it's
going to get aggressive.
I don't want you to send me.
I told them I don't want you to send me
your kids college fund.
I want you to send me
money you can afford to lose.
Right. Because we're
going to trade on margin.
We're going to be aggressive.
I just want you to know that. And I had
them sign papers that said trading
on margin is a very aggressive, you know,
trading system, whatever.
You could lose all your last sentence.
You could lose your entire investment.
Yeah. And they signed it.
So I bought that to the arbitrations.
I won all of my cases.
I was like, this is this is crazy.
I'm just sick and tired of paying.
One year I spent like 60,000 in lawyers.
So defending myself. Right. Crazy.
There is a lot of pressure to the to put
you guys out of business and go online.
Yeah. A merit rate or whoever was.
Well, now, now, now it's not like that.
Like back in the day, I
can call you up and say, Mr.
You know, like open
up an account with me.
Give me a shot. Yeah.
You're like, OK, Lou,
I'll give you a shot in 2000.
She says, OK, what's
your social security number?
Yeah. And that, you know, you would give
to me over the phone.
I would be able to from what I heard now
with anti money laundering laws.
Now they have to see where
the check is coming from.
You can't just go and buy
the stock for that person that.
Yeah. You know, maybe I don't know.
But now, you know, with the
hedge funds, everyone's bad.
I don't even know what
that business is like now.
So the thing you had them sign was that
something unique to you personally
that you created for your clients or was
that your company had?
I might have to come to the company.
The company is like, listen, if you're
going to be trading like this on margin
and stuff, yeah, they had paper.
So that I said standard CYA, right?
It's a disclaimer. You
might lose all your money.
And yeah, that's crazy that
people still sue you, though.
Yeah, that's I don't get
is how people can sue you.
I could sue you because I don't like you
wearing a white shirt right now.
OK, so I can't believe
you invited me in your home.
You're wearing white.
I'm so offended by why.
OK, so it's just just
like a big boom of that.
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah.
So OK, so to go back, so it sounds like
you pretty much spent
the good part of the 80s
and 90s on Wall Street.
Would you say or late 80s?
No, no, no, no.
Early 90s. So early 90s.
You're on Wall Street.
You're doing construction.
I think you're done. Yeah, years.
OK, so the 80s was
the construction years.
Yeah. And you had the two ladies.
I have a question on that.
But then the 90s was Wall Street. OK.
On the bricklaying
stuff, just to go back,
you'd mentioned your
dad was pretty good at it.
And you were probably you didn't
gravitate towards that at all,
because it was it's an artwork.
I don't know. It's it's dying off on.
Yeah, absolutely.
But now I didn't I
didn't want to be outside.
You know, it's hard work.
Yes, it's not easy.
It's heartbreaking work. Yeah.
But, you know, until you get to the
point, if you're like a foreman,
or, you know, you're running a crew of
guys and then, you know,
you're not picking up
12 inch block every day.
And, you know, you're
climbing up and down scaffolds.
I mean, you know, it's just
it just was it wasn't something
I could see myself
doing into my 40s and 50s.
You know what I mean? Yeah.
And was there was those were
the Gotti years, too, right?
Oh, yeah. So the there's
some organized crime activity.
Then it was all probably
controlled by those guys, right?
Well, close to that, I got close.
I saw it, but like like I
used to go out to clubs up on
on Bell Boulevard and base.
I used to see John Gotti's son. He's the
same age as I am. Yeah.
And that's like being there with his crew
of people, you know, like, oh,
I love your dad. He's my
idol. I'm like, oh, my God.
But did you ever go to Studio 54?
No, my wife did a lot. OK.
My wife had her own little card.
She tells the story. No way.
Yeah, she had her own little card.
She had a guy who Valley Park the cars.
She grew up very privileged in my life.
Well, that brings me to my next question.
So when did you meet your wife?
I met her down here in Florida in 90.
Ninety four. We were 30.
Yeah, 94. So were you on vacation?
No, this is how I moved down to Florida.
So I was a broker up in New York. Yeah.
Another guy was a broker with me.
And I used to come down to Florida all
the time for spring break.
I'm like, it's beautiful down here.
So I said to this
other guy that I work with.
Oh, so then I was living in Manhattan.
I was sharing an apartment
in Manhattan with this guy.
When did you make the move to Manhattan?
After I got licensed as a broker, OK, I
only lived there for
like maybe two years.
Like eighty nine to ninety.
No, no, I'm sorry. Ninety
one to ninety three. OK.
Three thousand dollars a month.
It was like a one and a
half bedroom apartment.
Nice building like.
Conciers like living in a hotel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You get the dorm and you're
dry cleaning, you know. Yeah.
Yeah. And it was nice right on second
avenue and 79th Street.
Really nice, nice building.
So I said to the guy that
I was broke with him like,
you know, the price of
Microsoft isn't going to change
whether we're here in New York in this
cold winter, or if we go down to Florida.
It's a company we work for. I had an
office in Florida, too. OK.
And then I start looking two bedroom, two
bath apartment with
tennis courts and a pool.
You know, two thousand
five hundred dollars.
It's only twelve hundred dollars each.
You know, we could live
like kings. So we did.
So you left New York.
Yeah. And ninety three ninety ninety.
Yeah. Ninety three. Yeah. Ninety four.
And then but you still kept working for
that same company trading until.
No, no, no, no. I was
with like two or three.
I bounced around. But you kept trading.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK.
Still stuck broke until about 2006.
OK, so you moved down.
I moved down. Met my wife
at Club Boca on the metal.
But he moved down here
with. Oh, yeah, he did.
And then you guys got the place together
with the tennis courts and all that.
Yeah. And so you're living the Boca life.
We're living the Boca
life from West Boca Corvette.
You know, of course, you
know, to get the Corvette.
And some girl that worked
with us at the firm in New York
had moved down to
Florida a year earlier than us.
And she said to my friend Steven and I,
hey, me and my friend Fran are going out
tonight. Why don't you meet
us out? Fran is my wife. Yeah.
So we're like, yeah,
yeah, we'll meet out.
You know, so we went to Club Boca.
We met them. And
that's it. And that was it.
That's it. August will
be 27 years. Wow. Wow.
Is she also from the same
generation as you? Yeah.
Yeah. She she grew up
in Manhasset, which is
in Nassau County.
I don't know, 15 minutes from me.
And it's funny because, you
know, when we were first dating,
we used to go to the same clubs.
I can't believe we
never ran into each other.
We used to go to the same diners at like
two o'clock in the morning.
No way. Yeah. That's.
I bet you were in the same place.
Yeah. I mean, you just had
no idea, you know, it's like.
So is she also Italian? She is.
OK. And but in your families
didn't know nothing like that.
There's no connection at all.
Same backgrounds and everything.
But you guys meet, you
know, but not in a range. No.
I just went up to
her. I said, hi, I'm Lou.
She said, Lou, I hear
you're funny. Make me laugh.
That's the first words out of her mouth.
Well, there you go.
There you go. Like, all right.
You want to. Yeah.
She's like, I hear you're funny.
Make me laugh. I'm
like, no, not right now.
So I go to Club Boca to drink.
I love that.
So and then that was it.
And she was living
down here with her mom.
And and then.
So her mom was down here.
Yeah, her mom and her
father were down here.
Oh, nice. But they were
divorced, too. But but.
And then did she have
siblings down here, too?
Was it just her parents?
No, just the parents.
Her siblings are still up in New York.
OK. So we met.
We started dating.
We dated for four years.
She was another one.
I felt a little bit of pressure on, but I
was getting on in here.
Now I'm like, you know, in
my 30s, I'm like, you know,
if I'm not going to have kids, I mean,
she's she's a great one.
My wife, smart, pretty.
She's my ride or die.
Right. Right. Right. And.
Then I we got engaged.
I think we had a honeymoon baby because
we got married in August of 98.
My first daughter was born in June of 99.
Sounds like it. Yeah.
Did you get married down here?
No, up in New York. No,
we we we accommodated.
By the go home. Yeah.
It's all about all about
our guests. Yeah. 100 percent.
Yeah. You know, because 90 percent of the
people were up in New York.
So I'm like, you know, so we only have
like maybe 100, 110
people at our wedding.
That's actually not
bad. No, it was nice. Yeah.
We were just up there
for a wedding last week.
There were 200 people.
I was getting anxiety, like
getting a drink at the bar
and bringing it back to the table.
I'm like, this place
isn't big enough for. Yeah.
But but but it was a great wedding.
I mean, considering all of your she had
her family up there,
your family up there.
That's 100, 110. That's not that big.
Considering you guys probably knew so
many people up there.
Out of the hundred,
110 people at my wedding,
I'd say 20 of them flew
from Florida to New York.
OK. And the rest was
up there. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. The rest is up there.
I was like, you know, so we
had a nice French restaurant.
It was beautiful. The food was great. It
was it was great. And.
But then how come you guys decided
to raise your family down here,
considering there's so
much family up there?
Was it mainly the
lifestyle down here? Yeah. Yeah.
Loved it. And.
I just loved it. Yeah,
I still love Florida.
I mean, yeah, I never
got used to the summers.
July, August, September, hurricane season
when it's oppressively humid
every single day. Yeah.
You know, you walk out of
your air conditioned home.
It feels like you got hit in the face
with the wet blanket.
You know, it's like, yeah.
Oh, my God. But you
know, but you deal with it.
Yeah. I always say that's like our winter
where we all kind of either stay inside
or you go to the beach. Right.
Or maybe your pool briefly. Right.
But it's really it's where the Northeast
stays inside in the winter.
We kind of stay inside in those months.
Yeah. Unless you're somewhere that's like
nice and comfortable.
Well, that's one thing about Florida.
I think it's like acclimated to the heap
because you go to a movie theater.
You know, you got to
bring a sweater or something.
You know, it's yeah.
Hold in the movie theater.
You got to go to the
mall. It's cold in the mall.
Yeah. Yeah. You know, yeah.
I was in Vegas with my
daughters last year in August.
That's brutal.
My one year. Oh, it was
so I was like 110 degrees.
And we would walk into the casino and
like the doors would open up.
But you wouldn't feel
the air conditioning
until you got like maybe
200 feet into the casino.
Really? It was really weird.
And my daughter was
like, this is terrible.
One daughter was
complaining. But no, that is weird.
Because I guess here, like you feel the
air immediately. Yeah.
Like to your point, even in
the summer, if we go places,
I will bring like a cardigan or something
because it's going to be freezing inside.
But I'd rather have that. So so yeah, my
wife is my ride or die.
She's a great girl, woman, great mother.
Would you stay at home, mom?
She was for the first, I guess, for the
first 13 years, 14 years.
Similar to what your kids went to high
junior high middle
school. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Let me ask you this.
Got my kids. I sent my
kids to a Jewish preschool.
The JCC. Yeah.
Rosen Levy and like.
And that was like four grand
a year, but yeah, it was good.
People like and our families like aren't
they going to get confused?
You know, they're like, no,
it's just a good pre school.
It's like the best in West Boca.
And yeah, did they have EMA and ABBA?
And did we go and see
them? And yeah, you know, yeah.
Did they learn some
Yiddish chants? Yeah, absolutely.
But my daughter, well, my older daughter,
my younger daughter,
isn't that religious, but my older
daughter, she goes to church.
Yeah. She, you know, gives
stuff up for Lent and right.
Did they get confirmed and everything?
Yeah, yeah, they got
confirmed. All of that.
And yeah. Yeah.
Did you send them to
Catholic school or public school?
My older one, I sent to Catholic school
to Spanish River Catholic schools.
You went to a before middle school.
She went to Spanish River.
Whatever that is.
Spanish River Christian.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
She went to Spanish.
She got into like she did
really good in middle school
and she got into like a
program, Spanish River High
the state like something like that.
Oh, yeah. They have like the law program
there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
She went to she went to
Spanish River High School.
Right. The daughter, my younger daughter,
she stayed in West Polk.
She went to the Loggers run.
OK. And then she went
to West Polk High School.
They won the football
championship. Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, this year. Yeah. Yeah.
This last last last last last season.
Yeah. They won the champion in the fall.
They're going to be good again.
They have two, I think
two cousins are very good.
So they're looking to probably repeat.
All right. Go for them.
They just don't know my
daughter one. Yeah. Yeah.
No, they they're known
as a really good team.
So two things.
Did you and your wife, because we've
talked about this in other episodes,
before you got married, did you talk?
Did you communicate with each other?
How you envisioned raising your kids?
Like, did you have the conversation that
you both wanted her to be home?
Or did did you cover any of that?
Or did you guys just
get married and go for it?
And it just kind of worked out.
Or did you have did you discuss those
topics before even getting married?
Yeah, probably.
Like what you both agree
that she would stay home.
Yeah. Yeah. Be a stay at home mom. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. My wife to this
day, she says she told me
all you have to do is
wake up and go to work. OK.
I'll take care of the house and the kids.
And she even tells she even told my kids,
all you two have to do is go
to school, get good grades.
It's all I care about. Yeah.
And I'll take care of
everything else. Yeah.
So that's and now she's still bitches.
But when we don't help her out with the
laundry and she comes home from work
and she starts doing things.
She I'm like, you spoiled us.
This is how you
trained us. I know. I know.
Yeah, it does. This is bullshit.
They're grown ass women.
You know, I need help.
I know everything is
about all three of you.
What about me? Yes. And she's right.
She's right. You know, yes, yes.
No, I have no comment on this at all.
Yeah. Well, we kind of did the same
thing, but we talked about it
before we got married, like what we both
wanted and agreed on that.
But I there's a lot
of couples that don't.
And then it causes that friction and, you
know, that type of stuff.
But it was the same thing.
I was home through
most of raising the kids.
And then you do get to that
point where you're like, OK,
everyone needs to help out. And but no
one's used to that. Right.
So I did go back to work part time for a
while and the whole house.
Everything fell apart.
It was just a disaster.
So but we have covered how it's important
to have those conversations.
So I didn't know if
coming from your generation,
if you guys did cover that
stuff before, you know, even
having a family, although you had a
honeymoon baby, but just that community,
that open communication
to so that in the marriage,
there isn't that complete breakdown of
who's going to do what and the roles.
And yeah, we know we know
what our roles are going to be.
Yeah. And how important it is. Yeah.
And then you have two
girls to your girl dad.
I am.
The estrogen.
Oh, man.
But, you know, that's
like super celebrated now,
because when we were growing up, it was
everybody wanted a boy.
At least that Gen X
thing was a boy. Right.
The millennials changed
it to celebrating this girl
dad experience and
just how awesome it is.
And it's like the best thing ever.
So what would you how would you reflect
on being a dad to girls?
Oh, God.
Are you close with both of them?
Oh, yeah. Very.
We tell each other everything.
They're very opinionated.
They're smart, smarter than I am. Mm hmm.
Um.
Uh.
I think girls are smarter than boys, you
know, it's just like they mature quicker.
Mm hmm. Um.
I couldn't imagine my life without them.
Um.
Would you say that you had really open
communication with them growing up?
Yeah, all the time. From the start.
Yeah, they're spoiled
little brats, but but, you know,
um. Yeah, they were great kids.
They did. They're really good kids.
I mean, you know, one thing, you know, my
wife, you know, and her sister
and her brother and
and my two sisters, too.
Thank God, none of our kids, my one
sister has three kids.
My sister has two kids,
two daughters, two boys and a
daughter my other sister has.
And my wife's sister has three kids
and her brother's got four kids.
None of well, he's got younger kids, but
none of the kids, drug addicts,
none of them ever got into trouble.
You know, I guess we
did something right. Yeah.
You know, yeah. 100 percent.
You know, you know, as long as I always
say I never got called
from the police station.
Yeah. Like we have your kid. Yeah. Yeah.
They were drunk driving.
They were just right.
Just never gotten any kind of trouble.
And that's all that's
all I could really ask for.
And they got good grades.
And but yeah, we tell
each other everything.
We're very close.
And, you know, they'll let me
know if I'm being an asshole.
They'll look at me and say,
dad, you're being an asshole.
Mm hmm. Mm hmm.
It sounds like you guys
created a space, though, where,
you know, they could come to you guys
with anything, anything
and how important that is. Oh, yeah.
Because if you don't,
then kids sneak. Yeah.
And then then you're going to get calls
from the police station.
Yes. And they're going to rebel.
Yes. Yeah. Right. Yes.
So how would you say you
guys went with raising?
What would your secret be to raising
daughters to have high self-respect
and to have high standards when they're
in the dating world?
We asked for that again.
How how do you think you and your wife,
what would be the secret you guys did or
what would be the way
you guys raised your daughters so that
they have high
self-respect for themselves?
Right. And as they're in the dating
world, they have high standards
of what to expect from a man.
What do you think you instilled in them
that they take with them?
Now that they're out
there in their 20s for less.
I still tell them now to the
state, don't settle for less.
If they go out on a date, you know,
I'm also a licensed private investigator.
Oh, really? Yeah.
And Florida. So when guys
would come pick them up,
I would take a picture of their license
plate and run their plate.
See if they anything.
I love it. That's amazing.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
People, they would say to my daughters,
did your father just
take a picture of my car?
It's awesome. She's like, yeah, he just
took a picture of your license plate.
So so they tell them
straight up. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
That's great. So yeah, I
just got my it's not like I
actively gone surveillance is my friend
who's been a PI for
like 30 years down here.
One day he was doing a surveillance.
I'm like, oh, this looks kind of cool.
You're checking out a guy
who's cheating on his wife.
He's like, yeah, get your PI license.
You know, maybe like one Saturday, if you
want to do a surveillance with me,
I'll pay you like five hundred bucks.
Really? You know. Yeah. Yeah.
I was like, OK, what are you going to do?
Sit my car and pee in a Gatorade bottle.
OK, take a couple of pictures.
So what is what is that like?
Because I'm I'm
fascinated by it. It's not fun.
I mean, once I've done probably a dozen
surveillances with this guy.
The best one we ever had was a lawyer.
Down in Fort Lauderdale,
his wife worked in his office,
but she would go pick up their kid at
school at like three o'clock
and he wouldn't come home to
like eight o'clock at night.
And she knows he wasn't working till
eight o'clock at night.
So she hired my
friend's firm to follow him.
So my friend had like a little key chain
that looked like a
key chain with a camera.
So we used to follow this guy.
Every night for two
weeks, he went from his office
to pure platinum strip club.
Yeah. No, that was a great surveillance.
So we sat right across the bar from him.
Put the camera and put the
little key camera facing him.
And then after two weeks,
he's like, what is he doing?
I go, he's having a few chardonnays and
he's giving strippers some money.
It's not like he's cheating.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like, yeah. You know, yeah, maybe maybe
he'll go get a dance
from one of them in the back room.
But so how did she handle that?
I don't know. She
just like, OK, thank you.
We gave him that was it.
Yeah, we don't get involved.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Call him up like a year later.
What did you do?
Marriage. Yeah. Yeah.
That would be cool, though. Yeah.
Yeah. But so is it mostly
cheating spouses like we're no just
following people around
or do you have access to like databases
where you can look people up and stuff?
No, we have access to like company.
And I work for like idea
for we have access to T.L.O.
and OK, you know, databases like not not
any police databases. Yeah.
Oh, true. You could use what you sell in
a sense. Yeah. Yeah. OK.
When did you start doing that?
When did you get your license for a
private investigator?
Oh, 10 years ago.
OK. Yeah.
Like maybe more and
maybe 12, 13 years ago.
So now you're using it just for whoever
tries to date your daughter.
Yeah. Yeah. That's convenient.
Yeah. He's he's like, I
miss I miss the boat there.
Yeah. I'm intrigued.
I'm going to look into it.
But but we should we
talk about raising them?
Yeah. You just don't settle for less.
They're smart girls.
I really don't need to tell them anything
like my one daughter.
She's got a great marketing job.
And she's much got a
master's from Lynn University.
My other daughter is a
teacher at Omni Middle School.
Oh, nice. Yeah. They're just smart girls.
Yeah. I really don't need to tell them
not to settle for less.
Well, they're pretty girls.
They but it's hard to find.
I mean, you know, we
we used to meet women.
Hey, can I buy you a drink?
You want to dance? It's
like swipe right. Swipe.
Yeah, totally. You know, fuck.
Yeah. Oh, shit. She
doesn't like me. Swipe.
Yeah. That could ruin your morale.
You know, your own self respect.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
That's how people meet
everyone now. It's crazy online.
It's hard for I think
it's hard for them now.
It is. I think it's very hard for them.
And I think if you are at
least speaking for our kids
and your kids are probably the same if
you're an authentic person
and you're down to earth, you're I think
it's harder for those people.
Yeah. You know, for those
kids to meet their their person
because you have to
get through all the crap.
Right. There's more crap
than ever to get through.
And I think they don't
even know how to the kids now.
The young adults struggle with talking to
each other face to face,
even in a bar situation because they're
so used to the dating apps
and stuff like that. So I think I know
it's it's not easy out there.
Well, I think you probably have two.
Self confident daughters, girls.
Yeah. And to to meet authentic people,
it's just a challenge.
Well, you know, it is. It is.
I don't envy this generation
for trying to find their mate.
Yeah, because I think
it's I think it's tricky.
I mean, I think they're doing fine.
All that. But I think they are presented
with more challenges than us.
And then they have the
whole situation ship.
I don't know if you've heard of that
stuff from your daughters.
But situation, situation,
it's all the benefits of a relationship,
but with none of the commitment.
So guys are sleeping
around with whoever they want.
No, it's more like more stringing along.
They string them along.
It's more of an emotional.
They get it's it's like
they're in a relation.
It's like they're in a
relationship, but they're not.
So the girls are
getting emotionally involved,
but there's no commitment.
So the guys can say, well,
we weren't officially dating
if they happen to sleep with someone else
or they don't do the official
we're dating, right?
They don't lock them down,
but they string them along.
And so this girl is always feels like
she's chasing, like not chasing,
but just like another week, another
month, it's going to happen.
And it's a situation ship.
And in my opinion, it benefits the men
more than the women.
I think there's women also that are into
it, but it's something as guys
are age ish missed out on.
We miss the booty call.
It's not that it's different.
This one guy I work
with like three weeks ago,
he told me he went up to Orlando with
this girl, but so I think yesterday
at work, I said, I said,
you still date that girl?
He goes, yeah, we're talking.
I go, what do you mean?
What does that mean? You're talking?
Yeah, you just I don't understand.
That's it. That's like
you're still seeing her.
So like are you consummating?
Like, yeah, or you're just talking.
I don't I don't know what you're saying.
It means they're
basically texting 24 seven.
Like they have full access to each other.
It's a psychological relations.
That's the goal.
Right. Like anybody else is that they
will end up probably doing that.
But then they're not committed.
They're in the talking.
It's kind of fucked up.
It's a talking stage.
Yeah. And my whole theory is that's not
going to change until women are like,
I'm not doing anything if
we're in a talking state.
You know what I mean?
It's just I don't know.
Maybe maybe I have.
Never been the type of person that could
carry on three different relations.
Yes. Yeah.
I know. I've heard the stories like a
married man has another family.
Yeah. Like, you know, not married, but
has has two kids with his girlfriend
that he's had for 10 years.
Yeah. How do you find the time and energy
to do something like that?
I think men like that are psychopaths.
So yeah, yeah.
Something something's
wrong with those men.
No, but I but honestly, I think
technology has made it
easier to to have many
different because you just
have to text them all back.
Yeah.
Is that as long as you're texting them
back or whatever,
then they're all getting
enough attention.
It's very interesting.
That's why I think it's more important
than ever to raise young women with
standards with self respect so that they
don't repeatedly end up in that
situation situation for years and years
and years and years and lose their baby
years all of a sudden.
They're 40 and they you
know what I'm trying to say.
So I know you and your wife, obviously,
by example, or whatever you've done,
have instilled that in your daughters,
which is so vital, I think, especially
for this generation when they were
younger and would get
out of line, you know,
waving around the house, help discharge,
discharging, you
know, a couple of bullets
and just get it.
OK, so then after you
were trading, did you go?
Where did you go from there?
Down here, you're
trading still, but stop that.
Right. Stop that.
Then I was doing consulting work.
I was helping like
startup companies raise money.
I did that for like five years.
I don't even remember the time frame.
I saw I through the connections I had
from old clients, we would raise money.
I would give them presentations with like
startup companies, raise money like that.
I would get paid in stock, this and that.
And then I took some time off and then I
then I went to work for the eye because
I'm not I'm not a golfer.
Yeah, I'm like.
You know, I need to
work, I need to keep busy.
I'm probably going to work for 70 years
old and then retire and then live for
11 minutes and die.
But hopefully not now,
maybe four or five years.
But but.
So your sales guy now, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
work with Nate at the idea.
Yeah. Next month will
be 10 years on there.
That's amazing. Yeah, it's a great place.
You know, we are everyone
that that works here gets along.
Yeah. You know, it's not like you wake up
in the morning like,
first of all, they let us
work from home twice a week.
Yeah, which is nice. Yeah.
And, you know, when you go in, it's not
like, oh, I got to go work
with this bunch of schmucks, right?
I go to lunch with you, son.
And, you know, like a little click.
It's a good environment.
They abused me. They call me old man.
You know, which is so funny because they
keep me young, I think.
Yeah, you're not much
older than us. Right. Right.
But when they're when you're their age,
we look like we look like old.
I haven't seen that on social media where
people like are referring
to people our age is old.
I'm like, what?
Oh, I think I guess we're the old people.
It might just be us that just doesn't
think we're old, but we really are.
I mean, would you say there is some truth
to that where we all still feel the same?
We just are aging, but inside we still.
Oh, my mind is still I'm 17 years old.
But my body when I, you know, I got bone
on bone in my right knee.
Yeah. Yeah. Now I know I'm going to need
a knee replacement in like five years.
Right. Right.
But I think that like young people don't
realize the way you guys feel now,
we still feel like that.
We still feel like ourselves.
We just look different.
We've aged, but you
can't explain that to youth.
But so do you think,
though, that you will
is there with with your
generation like the other?
Would you say that other men,
especially in your generation,
is there a tendency to
continue to keep working?
Do you think that or do you think that
retirement is the goal?
Or do you see that?
No, if you like what you do, you know,
there are guys that work into their 80s.
Yeah. I'm not saying
I'm going to do that.
You know, yeah, physically.
If you know, if I love
what I do, I don't know.
I you know, yeah.
I don't know what the goal should be.
I think if you like what you do and look,
I think if you have enough money to
retire and you're healthy and,
you know, you're not just going to sit
around the house and wither away.
Right. Then then then retire.
If you're not going
to live that lifestyle.
But if if you're going to retire and
you're not going to be active
or you're not going to keep your mind,
your mind, you're just going to sit there
and, you know, watch
TV and waiting to do it.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
You know, then then don't do that.
I think the important
thing is to keep the mind.
Yeah. The mind going,
thinking, challenging.
Yeah. That's why what you're doing every
day probably also does that.
It's like you're practicing with sales.
You're engaging with people regularly.
So it's because I think it wards off
dementia, Alzheimer's, all of that,
as long as we all keep using our brains
and challenging ourselves.
Is when you get stuck in that rut.
Right. Are you finding, though, that
people around your age
or a little older are
retiring or still working?
No, they're still working. Yeah.
They're still working.
Eggs cost seven dollars a dozen now.
I mean, the companies
are hiring older people.
I'm not saying, you
know, like like like boomers.
Are there a lot more
boomers are working still today?
And they're still hiring them.
Yeah, because they're harder workers than
the younger kids now.
So that's what you're finding.
Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting.
Because I guess on how hard I work, yeah.
Yes. On how hard I work and how often I'm
on the phone like, yeah.
And that like a talk time thing.
I'm always at the top of the list.
Look, I'm not saying I'm like the high
and mighty over there at IDI.
But right. But I
don't know any other way.
I mean, if I'm going to be at work, I'm
going to work. Yeah.
Now, are you seeing a difference in
generations, though, at work even?
And yeah, in the way. Yeah.
And some of these young kids come in and
they, you know, first of all,
they they they come out of college with
like a liberal arts degree.
And they want to make one hundred twenty
thousand dollars a year,
one hundred fifty
thousand dollars a year.
And, you know, and I want to work remote.
Yeah. Yeah.
You know, I want to work
in my underwear all day.
Well, this isn't life, you know. Right.
And absolutely. I see that difference.
Do you think it's backfiring if you're
saying that they are
the boomers are
starting to get hired again?
So Gen X is probably
starting to get hired.
Not again, but still
continuing to get hired.
Do you think that that attitude of the
younger generation is backfiring
on them a little bit with companies?
A little bit. Yeah.
Look what the look with the president of
Jamie Diamond of Chase Bank.
He requested everyone be in the office.
Otherwise you'll find
somewhere else to work.
Yeah. He's like enough is enough because
Jamie Diamond, you know, is what?
A little older than me, maybe my age.
But he, yeah, mother, ever got up, was in
the office at 6 a.m.
till eight, nine o'clock at night.
Yeah. You know, before
he was who he is now.
And, you know, now what?
You want me to give you a
bonus, a Wall Street bonus?
Yeah. You know, of a couple hundred six
figure bonus at the end of the year.
And you're not even
coming into the office.
And, you know, they just built a
beautiful new campus, I believe,
in in like downtown or midtown Manhattan.
I don't know if you saw
that, but it's got a cafeteria.
Yeah. Weight rooms, Pilates, theaters,
medical center, the whole thing.
Yeah. It's, you know, that's amazing.
And they have wellness rooms.
Yeah. Oh, if you feel anxiety, you go
decompress in this room.
We didn't have any. No, no.
We didn't when I grew up.
I mean, me and my wife talk
about this, we laugh about it.
We we didn't go to someone's
house and their parents say,
you have any peanut allergies?
Yeah. Yeah. I would just I.
I don't know if it's what they're
shooting these kids up with the.
I don't know what the vaccines.
Yeah. That all these kids are taking.
But we don't worry
about peanut allergies.
Like I said earlier, we used to use pay
phones that had all kinds of germs on.
Yes. Yeah. I don't know if that helped
our immune systems and I probably did.
Yes. But I think so.
But, you know, now it's like.
Everything my feelings are hurt.
You know, it's yeah.
Go into the decompression room, you know,
if you if you feel a little like
overwhelmed, everyone's got ADHD, you
know, all these kids are running around
like zombies on whatever they put them
on, like to pro or right.
I don't know. Whatever
the yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Little babies. Yes.
Like eight, nine years old or on pills
because, you know, yeah.
I don't know. I don't know.
I think that we need to balance.
I think things have have
gotten off the rails a bit,
but I'm not sure how it's going to how
it's going to get fixed.
What's interesting is the millennials, so
the generation behind us
are spearheading the whole work life
balance thing, right? Right.
And to me, I think it's
great that sure, let's do it.
But it's not part of my DNA.
It's probably not part of yours either,
where because I like you,
I started working at a young age.
I hustled and worked my whole life and I
can totally relate to this.
How to decompression rooms
and anxiety over everything.
It's just not from our generation. No.
Whole new thing. It's not.
And but I think there there is something
to be said about work life balance,
but then you can't have it going
completely this other way either,
where everything's remote, but you still
want to make a certain amount of money.
And I think that a lot of the Gen Z's are
coming in and dictating what they want
and not understanding.
You have to start kind of
an entry level and you work.
There's a ladder here. You're climbing,
you're working your way up that.
I don't think that's
registering completely.
So but I also think
that that even goes into
relationships, marriage.
I think a lot of them, when they get
married, they expect
to have the big house,
the cars, have all the things, right?
Not understanding that a marriage is
building those things together.
You start here and you
work here and you work here.
So I and I don't know
if that's social media.
I don't know if that's technology.
It's a good question.
So when we started out, we
started out on the in a house
not much bigger than this
room in Portland, Oregon.
So we brought Nate home from the
hospital, but we've
built our lives together.
We were 23. We were
23 when we got married.
Did you and your wife do that or did you
kind of reestablished more established
and start right in?
No, we were we got married late.
We were 34 years old. OK. Yeah. OK.
So she we had our first order 35. OK.
So no, we just jumped in.
But you were you guys your careers were
already established.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I was a broker. She was working in
retail, which she does today.
And, you know, and
then she stopped working.
And yeah, yeah. Yeah. Established.
So you're more because you
got married a little bit later.
Yeah. I thought you meant we just jump
right into marriage.
Not no, no, no, no, no.
We kind of did that.
More, more, more the concept.
If you've built your life together and it
wasn't all just say.
Kind of what would the
right. Perfect from the start.
We had all the things and everything was.
Yeah, I think there's this idea with some
of the younger generations
that they need to have this
before they can get married.
Like, wait till we have the big house
before I get married.
Wait till we have these two
cars before I get married.
Wait till everything is
perfect. We're not understanding.
Sometimes you you start small.
You don't don't not get
married just because of that.
You know, I mean, I agree. I agree.
The heart wants what the heart wants.
I mean, you know, if you if you love
someone and you want to marry them,
you could see yourself spending the rest
of your life with them.
Marry them. Yeah. And build the life
together. Right. Right.
And, you know, let the cards
fall where they may. Right.
You're going to have
rough times. That's life.
Life is adversity. You know, yeah.
If you can't deal with adversity, then
you should be single
and live in a room by yourself.
That's, you know, it's because, you know,
it's a good point, though.
Marriage is adversity. Life is adversity.
Like nothing's going to be just because
you have hard times.
It's not tinted glasses. Yeah.
It doesn't mean you should necessarily
get a divorce or end it.
That's that's how things
go. That's how life goes.
So but I don't know.
Maybe so much adversity has
been removed from some of.
And maybe that's Gen X because we raise
Gen Z as we feel like we were ignored.
Right. We were there's the whole divorce
movement was happening
and we were growing up and a lot of crap
was happening to us.
So I think we went to a
completely other end with our kids,
all of our kids and
making everything so wonderful.
And maybe and then I think we're seeing
some of the repercussions.
Did your folks stay married? No.
Is it yours? Yeah.
Yeah. Two different childhoods. Yeah.
So but we both wanted the same thing for
our kids because of that.
If that makes sense. Yeah.
Two totally different.
My parents, my dad passed away.
How long ago, 15 years ago or so?
17. Yeah, 17.
But my parents would
have stayed married forever.
Right. Yeah. The reason that. Yeah.
So but then we were the one we got
married young and built everything up.
But we were used to
adversity from our childhood. Right.
So it wasn't unusual
for us to have hard times.
And I don't know if with
the younger generations,
especially coming into the workforce, if
they understand hard times as part of it,
putting in the work, the grind.
Yeah. You know, I just had this talk with
my daughter, the other.
Maybe it was last night or the night
before my older daughter.
She was she was stressing out about
something that wasn't
something minimum that happened at work.
And I'm like, that's
this is Thursday night.
I said, that's a Friday problem.
I said, don't bring it home.
I mean, I was like, did the company lose
millions of dollars
because you made a mistake?
No, it was like a harmless mistake.
She's like, yeah, I say, well, people are
going to make mistakes.
Your boss makes mistakes.
You're going to make mistakes.
Just deal with it the next day.
You can't let that eat you up.
Otherwise, you're going to be taking high
blood pressure medication like me.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
But I think that they overthink and they
have anxiety over every little thing.
Yeah. Yeah. So and you guys are boomer
parents and we're Gen X parents.
But I think our kids
have the same outlook.
So I don't know what that is.
I mean, I don't know if it's
social media or technology.
I don't know why. But he's
a younger boomer, though.
You are. You're closer to us.
The last baby boomer.
But I don't know what
it is, but they are.
They're worried about everything.
Yeah. Overly worried. Right.
And I don't know. I don't I
can't put my finger on it.
But it's interesting that you're saying
you're seeing it in the workforce,
too, the difference in the work ethic or
what they're in the work ethic.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And what they're expecting.
Now, are you seeing some younger
generations that grind like you do?
Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's good. Absolutely.
That's good. Yeah.
I don't know. What about
you, though, in your work?
What do you mean?
With younger generations?
What have you observed?
I think we talked a little bit about it.
There's there.
They are looking for
more of a work life balance.
They're way more in touch with their
emotions and I sit that I am.
I prefer, you know, historically.
But there's some smart people in the
workplace and they they do work hard,
but they just would
prefer to have a balance.
Ideally, you know, say you work nine to
five at five or one.
They don't really want to hear from work
until the next day. Right.
And I'm I don't know if
that's new to me in a sense.
I love it, but it's new.
They're driving that in with your job.
Are you when you're done, you're done or
does your work have access to you?
Like when you're I don't know.
But you're out right once the day's over,
you're you're done for the night.
Now, if I see if I see like an important
customer calling in,
because I have my work phone that goes
over to my cell phone.
If it's a important customer
that spends a lot of money,
it's like six thirty seven o'clock at
night and I'm not doing anything.
And I'm not, you know, maybe intoxicated.
Yeah, that's learning my words.
I'll take his call. Yeah. Or call.
Are you allowed to?
Don't you have to leave by a certain time
so they can close the office?
Yeah, our office closes at like six.
Well, they shut the air conditioning off
in the building at six.
OK, so like, oh, wow.
Yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe six thirty.
That's one thing about the company that
work, but they're not asking us
to work on the weekends
for the 40 hours a week.
And, you know, they're not asking you to
work any overtime. Yeah.
So as long as you get,
you know, you stuff done.
And do you still do PI work?
No, I haven't like done a
surveillance in like a while.
Could you at any time? Yeah.
You wanted to. Yeah.
I just renewed my
license three months ago.
Just sent in the paperwork and see you
can do that photo as a side.
If you ever wanted to.
My friend called me up
tomorrow and said, yeah,
you know, I have to do a surveillance.
You want to help me out?
I tell you, yeah, I
wasn't doing anything. Yeah.
So it sounds like get my
dust off my camera. Yes.
It sounds like from the start of it, from
even when you were very young,
you've always been kind of hustling.
I'm a worker. I'm a worker.
I'm an earner. I need to make money.
And where do you think that I like to go
to nice restaurants?
OK. I you know, I like to travel.
Yeah. And, you know, I, you know, where
do you think that drive came from?
My father, my mother and my
mother and my my older sister.
Who lives in South Jersey?
She was even as a
late teenager, early 20s.
She had three different jobs.
She was a bookkeeper for this one
company, worked for a tennis magazine.
You know, she was just like she was like,
yeah, love that money.
Love that money. Wow. Yeah.
So what advice would you
give to younger generations?
You got number one, you got to work hard.
If you if you want that
beautiful house, the big backyard,
you know, you got to work hard.
You know, don't don't you know if you
have to live with the person you love
in a one bedroom apartment or studio
apartment, you know, do it.
If you find your soulmate,
do that. Right. You know.
But, you know, work hard.
That's no one's going
to give you anything.
I mean, you know, unless.
I don't know.
Unless you you invent something or.
That's mainly a work
ethic. Yeah. You have to work.
Yeah, that's it. Right. Yeah.
No one's going to give you anything.
I mean, unless you're like a Walmart kid
or, you know, and a trust funder.
Yeah. A trust fund, baby. You know. Yeah.
I did. And then some
of these trust fund kids
wind up to be drug
addicts. Yeah. A lot of them.
If I was a trust fund baby,
I would kiss my father's ass.
But dad, whatever you want, you want
bacon and eggs, I'll make it for you.
Yeah. No, it's true. You know. Yeah.
You know, and but even
now those rich kids like
like it's not all of them
grow up to be assholes.
You know, arrogant look
down on people, you know.
But, you know, hopefully, you know.
I don't know.
I think that some of that, too, if you
have everything given to you,
then you never learn a work ethic and you
also never understand
the ups and downs of life.
So you almost don't know
when what happiness is,
because everything's been given to you.
So you don't have a gauge. Exactly.
And it loses. Things
don't have a meaning. Right.
And I think that's where these kids get
lost and into that, into drugs and stuff.
Right. You want to have a
nice Mercedes Benz to drive?
I work my ass off to buy that car.
Yeah. Not like my dad
bought it for me. Yeah.
So for you, it has
meaning, of course, for them.
And so then they struggle finding meaning
in their life. Right.
I think I think
that's a tough thing there.
It's better to have lost that love and to
never have loved at all.
Yes. Yes. One hundred
percent. One hundred percent.
No, I think that's great advice to go
back to when you were
working in New York.
I for anyone who's there during the time
you were talking about,
I always ask what their
9-11 story is. Do you have one?
I was here. OK. OK.
So you were right. That was 2001.
Yeah. So you were trading. OK.
You were trading till 2000. I was I was
on the sales floor at the brokerage.
I was working in. Yeah.
And there was a TV right in front of me.
So the whole thing happened.
And I was like, oh, my my wife.
That was September 11, 2001.
My my daughter was born September.
My second daughter, September 27, 2001.
My wife was at the OBG with friggin old
wires on her, you know,
listening to the
baby. And I called her up.
I'm like, do you see what's happening?
And I had friends who worked in the the
American Express Tower right
across the street from
the World Trade Center.
And she's like, yeah.
And my daughter was
born on 27th of September.
My second daughter,
two weeks after. Wow. And
yeah, I was at the brokerage.
I worked and then they shut the market
down for like a week.
I think it was. Yeah. Yeah.
Did you know people that were there when
it happened in that area?
I knew people that that
worked right across the street.
But one of my good friends that I grew up
with, he told me he was late
going into work. He was
in he was on the FDR drive
going from the tribal bridge downtown.
And then he turned around.
Um, I knew people that were in the area.
I didn't know any people that perished.
Thank God. Thank God. Yeah.
How did that, if being a New Yorker,
because him from Brian
being from New Jersey,
Brian actually rescheduled a meeting.
He was supposed to be in the arriving
pretty much in the bottom of the trade
center when the first plane hits.
And there's so many stories like that
where people missed a flight or whatever.
But I know for I know the
way Brian felt about it.
It it really hit him like they they
attacked him in his backyard.
Like it was it
brought it personal for him.
And he's from Jersey.
Yeah. Being from New York.
It was terrible. It was terrible.
I felt bad for everybody that that lived
there, that worked there.
I know I probably had guys that I worked
construction with back then
that were down there in that area working
that might have perished.
I don't know about it. Yeah. Yeah.
It was terrible. You know, it's like
someone declared war.
Yeah. On us. You know,
how else can you look at it?
You know, it's so surreal.
Have you have you gone to what's it
called? The Freedom Tower?
Yeah. And like the yeah. Yeah.
Have you gone to that at all?
Yeah. I yeah, I was down.
I haven't gone in it. Yeah. Yeah.
Sound like in the Chelsea area. Yeah.
A little while, like like 10 years ago.
I don't miss New York. I
got to tell you, I have.
I have a bitter taste in my
mouth now about Manhattan.
I don't like the way the
city has become with the crime.
Yeah. Like I told you earlier, me, my
friends and I take the train.
We felt safe, you know.
But now what I see that's going on in
that city, I have no love.
It's like I have no I
have no desire to go back.
And I think you feel the same way. Yeah.
It bothers it bothers me.
Yeah. Because I used to
love this so much. Yeah.
Well, we used to when we lived in Jersey,
I used to take the kids in.
But those were the Giuliani years.
So we ended up this
even Bloomberg wasn't bad.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
No, it was safe.
We would go in and I could
walk around all like Disney.
Yeah. I remember it
when we'd go to 42nd Street
and it was the peep shows and the hookers
and then went to college, came back.
And it was Disney.
You know, you go along 42nd Street and
it's all corporately owned.
And yeah, it's all right.
But it was like Vegas and
like, but all the lights up.
Yeah. Times Square.
It was not allowed us.
It's fine for bringing your family. Yeah.
We could go in.
We do all the things and never feel I
never thought about someone pushing us
in front of a subway, all of that.
But I think now there's so many things
you have to take into consideration
to live there. It's I don't know.
And it makes me sad.
And I didn't even I'm
not even from there.
I only lived in that area for 10 years.
It feels like since it's
like a post covid thing,
it feels like it was somewhat still OK,
but trending in the wrong direction.
Then covid hit. And now
it's a complete it's a mess.
Yeah. Covid messed up a
lot of things. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, thank God we were ruined the
generation of school kids
with that were all messed up.
They don't know how to
interact with other kids.
And you can see their
faces, their expressions.
It was just terrible,
terrible, terrible time.
Well, thank God we
were in Florida, though,
because we were the most
free out of the whole country.
You know, we were all able to
kind of go back to our lives
before I think anyone else in Texas.
So we had to deal with
that with our youngest.
He was in a school that wanted masks and
then like the plexiglass.
Like that. And we put them
at switch schools. Right.
They still had to do masks or you can.
Or you could stay home. Yeah. Yeah.
No, but that didn't last too long.
Like, again, I think that
out of all of the country,
Florida had the best situation.
Yeah. My office, our
office was shut down from March.
Then we went back sometime in June, like
middle of June. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe like
two and a half months. Yeah.
And then when we did go back,
we had the plexiglass. Yeah.
That we're separating the cubicles. Yeah.
But there were states that stayed like
that for like two years.
Oh, yeah. Well, we were up in
Pennsylvania for a lacrosse tournament.
It was just weird. I think people stole a
lot of covered money.
Oh, 100 percent. Yeah. 100 percent.
So do you not go up to New York anymore?
I was just up there last week for a
wedding. But no, I used to go up there
when my kids were first born.
My wife and I used to go
up there every Christmas.
So my kids could like know their cousins.
I mean, they were
young. Yeah. Just babies.
Like six, seven years in a row. Every
Christmas we used to go up.
But I stopped doing
that like 10 years ago.
Do your daughters have any interests in
living up there in the city or anything?
My older one, probably if she if she
because my niece lives in the city,
my older sister's daughter and she lives
a very nice life in the city.
If my daughter got a
job, she wouldn't live.
My niece is married
very well. Right. Right.
And she lives in a beautiful apartment
that has a view of the Empire State
Building from a living room.
And my daughter goes up there
and she'll visit her cousin.
And but I'm like, yeah, but
if you had a nice opportunity,
that's not that's not
how you're living. Yeah.
But she would probably,
you know, move up there.
My younger one.
I don't think she has a desire.
My my younger one's funny. She's a.
She I told you she's a teacher.
So she's like, what does she teach?
She teaches
40, 13 and 14 year olds.
Yeah, middle school.
Greatest. Yeah. Yeah.
Middle school. She comes home.
She's like, I am not having kids.
I'm like, when are you
going to give me a grandchild?
She's like, I deal with
these kids all day long.
I am not having kids.
Don't wait for me.
Talk to your daughter.
She's in the worst age.
And she's in the worst.
I mean, middle school
teachers are special.
Like we need them so bad
because there's only certain types
of people that will put up with that age.
And so I so appreciate
middle school teachers
because we we desperately need them and
we know how annoying that age is
and how crazy it is. There's so much
drama and all of it.
And then they all have phones.
They are 100 percent
social media technology.
Yeah. Crazy.
So it's a completely different thing.
So now before I ask my last question, do
you have any other questions?
Because I always have to
ask him because he says
he do you you forgot me and I wanted to
have another question.
No, not that I can think of.
OK, I mean, I mean, I'm fascinated with
like your upbringing,
where you grew up and stuff like that.
I you know, it was a fun life.
The 80s, like I was saying earlier, the
best decade of music
I could ever remember.
We had Michael Jackson, George Michael,
the air bands, rock and roll.
Yeah. The 80s were amazing.
Yeah. Magic Johnson and Larry Bird.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No, it was awesome.
It that and we were it's funny.
We were again, middle school, I think
high school, middle school, high school,
elementary, middle school,
high school during that time.
But the music part of it, you know, you
know, it's great about
the music of the 80s.
My daughters know all
these songs like the famous.
Yeah, because it's in all their movies.
Yeah. They watch now all
these directors or yeah.
You know, musical, whoever it composes
the music for these movies
puts like the 80s songs. Yeah. In their
movies. Yeah, they do.
And also they'll do remixes. Yeah.
So they'll take parts of songs.
And then it's so funny because the kids
think that they discovered that song.
And it's like, no, we know where the song
came from, the root of that song.
And it's usually an 80s song.
Go ahead. I'm just going to ask, what was
what's your favorite concert
you've ever been to and
or your favorite venue?
My favorite venue.
That's rough.
Probably the garden.
But I don't know, favorite concert.
I probably that Van Halen
opening up for Journey at the.
That's pretty special. Yeah, that was
that was pretty cool.
I was like I was like second row side of
the stage for Van Halen.
The National Coliseum.
I was just at the show
here at the Hard Rock.
That's a nice new venue that
they built the Hard Rock live.
Yeah, we saw the chili
peppers there last year.
Recently, a year ago when I
was in Vegas with my daughters,
I saw Bruno Mars at the Dolby out. And
OK, that was a great show.
Have you gone to the sphere?
I haven't been there yet.
Yeah. And my friend who I saw at the
wedding last week up in New York,
he's going out there to
see the dead show next week.
That's the end of the month.
It looks weird. I feel like I would fall.
It's just like I'd get vertigo.
Yeah, the whole perspective is that I
don't know if I'd want
to if I'd want to go.
But the kids just went to Red Rocks and
we want to go to that.
I was telling him
also about Billy Strinks.
Yes, he loves guitarists.
Billy's trying to explain describe.
There is some jam band
aspect to it, but not the dead.
It's not like the dead, right?
I think you'd like it.
It's like bluegrass jam band.
That's how I would describe it. Yeah.
Yeah. I like country music.
I started getting into country music.
My older daughter lived in Nashville for
a year, two years ago,
and she had she got a job
out there marketing. Yeah.
So we drove drove her
car out to Nashville.
Yeah. Thirteen hours.
Just me and her packed it
up, found her an apartment.
That was cheap. That was that was great.
Found her an apartment and.
Then went to all the hunky tonk bars.
That was some way. Yeah.
Jason Aldean in concert.
Yeah, I remember she's
like Jason Aldean is playing.
I'm like, who the hell say I never even
know who he was. Yeah.
And she's like right at the Bridgestone.
Now, have you ever been
to Nashville and Broadway?
OK, yeah. See, it's like the Bridgestone
arena is right there.
And her apartment was a seven minute walk
to the Bridgestone arena.
That's awesome. So, yeah.
So but this is even before we found the
apartment, we were in a hotel.
I'm like, OK, let's go walk over to the
Bridgestone, see if there's any tickets.
And I just went up to the the
box office and I said to go,
yeah, give me the two best
that you have. What do you have?
And she's like, I have these right on the
side of the stage, like fourth row.
I'm like, how much she goes, 200?
I go, OK, each given to me.
And she goes, no, 200 for
both of them. I go give me four.
Yeah, yeah. Right.
But yeah, that was a good show.
And I just love live
music. So I yeah. Yeah.
So when she lived in
Nashville for the year, I
my wife and I, we would go down there
like six, seven times a year.
I'm sure because that's a mecca. Yeah.
And so a quick flight
for Fort Lauderdale. Yeah.
They get everybody. Yeah.
Well, great musicians in those bars.
That's where the action is.
I think I was about to say is we were
walking around there.
Somebody there was like an Allman
Brothers cover band.
It sounded like the Allman Brothers.
Yeah. Yeah. Incredible.
Well, coming from the Tri State area,
like everyone goes there.
So you grew up like you said, you had
access to all these bands
from where you grew up because they
didn't go everywhere. Right.
So and you had that experience.
That's the one thing I miss about that's
the only thing I really miss about
New York metro areas,
all the bands go there.
You've got the Beacon,
you've got the Garden, New Jersey.
That's a great venue. I saw
the Allman Brothers there.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When did you go?
Oh, when did I see the Allman Brothers?
Yeah, that was probably the 80s.
That is so the Allman
Brothers at the Beacon Theater.
That was a great show. Yeah.
Is to do that every
year. It was her birthday.
So in March, they'd always come and do
like nine, 10 shows. Yeah.
So we'd go in, stay in the city, catch a
couple shows and then drive home.
This is like the early 2000s. It was
great, though. Yeah.
Now I miss that because not everybody
hardly anyone comes down here.
It's just to see
people. It's harder down here.
So I do miss that. And
it's super expensive.
Not that that's a you know, it makes
sense, but like Pearl Jam
was at the Hard Rock Stadium.
Well, like like 800 bucks a ticket or
something like that.
Those are sales. It's the scalpers.
Yeah, they get in there.
Pearl Jam, Pearl Jam recently.
That would have been
like what a year ago.
No, they're coming. That's what it is.
They're coming to the Hard Rock Live, not
not the football stadium.
Oh, OK. So they're
playing at the Hard Rock Live.
Another good venue that
I like is Broward Center.
Yes. Forming. Yes. Yeah.
That's a nice place. Yeah.
I've seen a couple of ways there. We saw
Bob. We're there. Yeah.
That is a good place. So you do get
people here, but it's not like up.
You know, another good one is
the pompano beach amphitheater.
Yeah, that's a nice
little place. Yeah. Yeah.
Even Sunset Cove here in
Boca, some games get things.
Now live music has been like so
integrated in our family.
Like we we took all of our kids to
concerts and like for birthdays
instead of a gift, we would give them
concert tickets Christmas.
So they Nathan's first concert was Bruce
Springsteen in Giant Stadium.
Our daughters was Red Hot
Chili Peppers in the Meadowlands.
So and then Dylan's was here.
It was dead in company or no in Atlanta.
Yeah, we did company.
So we same as you like
it's a huge outlet for us.
That was another good show. She just
brought back a memory.
Bruce Springsteen saw him
on the Born in the USA tour.
Yeah. Yeah. And that was
the first show I ever saw.
That made me a Bruce Springsteen fan.
I was like, I was like, this guy, he
played for like two hours.
And he said, we're going to take a little
break and be right out.
It's what the concert was over. I'm like,
he's coming back out. Yeah.
Yeah. Guys, you really saw
everybody in the prime. I did.
I never go to the
Stone Pony in Asbury Park.
I never went there. No, my
sister lives right down there.
No, I never went there.
That's where Bruce, you know, started.
Yeah. I used to see a lot of people in
the Ritz in New York.
OK. OK. Yeah.
I mean, again, there's so many areas up
there that we don't have access to.
I was going to ask you.
So I don't know if you know, you probably
do, but boomers get a bad rap
for not being like kind or nice.
I don't know if you know that.
But when the younger generations look up,
look at think of boomers,
they're like, grumpy,
grumpy and just not.
Selfish, that's what they always say.
That's what I see over and over again is
they're selfish, they're self-centered.
Dada, do you think that from
what you know of your peers,
do you think that that's justified or do
you think that's not fair,
that that's not accurate?
I think boomers.
Are.
Comfortable in their old
ways, they they they more so.
Wait, what's when I'm looking for this?
That's tough. That's a great question.
I think I think boomers may.
I'm still stuck in the
80s with with the music.
I still listen to that stuff, you know.
Like my my friend, he's like, you want to
go to the tool concert
and tool is like a
really good band. Yeah.
But I don't listen to them.
He's like, what are you listening to?
I'm like, I'm still listening to my own.
And I can't do that. Yeah.
But but. All right.
So the question is, a boom is grumpy.
Yeah, they could.
They're probably set in their ways.
Do you think they're selfish by nature?
Leave a selfish half.
Probably it's coming
from the set in your way.
Not you, but set in their ways.
Vibe of as long as they're
happy, they don't care about
anybody else, what's going on with anyone
else, as long as they
it they're not too concerned about what's
going on with the younger generations
or how the world is for them.
I'm not that I'm not.
I'm not like that, but I'm
sure there are people like that.
And actually, actually.
My daughter, who's a teacher, doesn't
agree with the current administration
cutting out the education
department of education. Yeah.
She's like, it's going to
make my job a lot harder.
And I said to her.
I said to her, well,
doesn't matter to me,
I don't have any kids
in middle school anymore.
And there you go. Yeah, there you go.
That answers your question, right?
She's like, you're an asshole.
You don't have to have kids in middle
school to know what's right
and what's wrong. I'm like, oh, Jesus, I
don't want to have this conversation.
I think that's it.
So, yeah, yeah, I guess.
Yeah, I guess, you know,
yeah, it's in a way I'm like that.
You know, I'm not
right. I'll own up to it.
Yeah. Yeah. I think that's that's I think
that's where that's coming from.
If it doesn't affect me, I
don't give a shit. Yeah. Yeah.
I guess. I guess. Yeah.
Would you say that we put in our time?
Right. Right. Right. Right.
So would you say even with your peers,
you probably they feel
have the same outlook.
I don't think I don't think we don't care
about the younger generation.
I I totally care about the younger
generation because the the
the teenagers today in 10
years, God willing, I'm alive.
You know, I'm going to be
making laws and running my country.
You know, so I hope they're successful. I
really do. Yeah. Yeah.
I'm rooting for them. I'm you know, I'm
yeah. I'm not a hater. Right.
Right. I would just you know, just you
know, you have to work for what you want
and you know, just have some common sense
and just just don't.
I don't know. Yeah.
You know, there's a lot of shit going on.
I don't want to get political.
I don't I don't believe men should be
playing in women's sports.
Right. Right. Don't believe. Right. And
you could you could talk to me
till you're blue in the face. You're not
going to change. Right.
My my outlook on that.
But I don't even know if
that's a generational thing.
Like, I think there's people in every
generation that are
on both sides of that.
I so I don't know why, why,
why, why, why is there so much?
Why are they letting why they're letting
murderers or or someone
who puts a razor to some
woman's face or punches someone
in the street and cocons and why do they
just let him out of jail?
Why? Right. Right.
I don't think shit like
that, that should happen.
And you could talk to me
till you're blue in the face.
Why they should let him out, but I'm not
going to agree with you.
Yeah. Yeah. You know, so I, you know.
But I think that there's
probably Gen X, millennial Gen Z's
that would agree with you.
You know what I mean? Like,
I think your line of thinking
transcends the generations, but then I
think it transcends it on the other side.
I think there's boomers that would
disagree with your line of thinking, too.
Do you know what I mean?
And you know what? Yeah.
I do think I do think
maybe and I'll say this.
Boomers are a little jealous
of the current generation,
Gen Z and Gen X, because.
Like, like I'll speak
personally, like I can't navigate
shit on a computer, OK,
the way a kid can today.
Yeah. Like with Excel and this and that.
So maybe I have to work harder
because I'm not as savvy on the computer
as this 30, 25 year old, you know.
Yeah. Put together spreadsheets and this
and that, you know. Yes.
I mean, I work with guys
that are so much more organized
with their clientele and and, you know,
not that I'm all over the place.
I know where my money is, but I'm just I
don't know if I just in my mind,
I don't have time for that
or it's just fun for them.
Well, it's kind of like what you said.
You're you're stuck.
Your generation, a lot of it is you guys
are stuck in your way.
So that would require you learn, learning
a whole new way of doing something.
Why are you more lean towards?
No, it's easier. This is
the way I've always done it.
But then I got by you got by.
But you do kind of know that the way
they're doing it is more efficient.
Yeah. Yeah. Would you say that's
accurate? Absolutely.
So I wonder if that also goes
into other areas of life, too.
Not like that's one example.
But there may be other situations where
boomers see younger generations
doing some things differently or more
efficiently, but it require
it would challenge them to change some
things in order to participate in that.
So that could result in some either
frustration, but maybe also some envy.
You know, I just say do
whatever makes you happy.
Yeah. Don't break the
law and don't kill anybody.
You know, just I really don't care who
you want to have sex with.
I don't care if you want to be a guy or
girl. I really don't.
Yeah. Just live and let live.
Be happy. Yeah.
But just don't try to shove something
down my throat that I don't like.
Right. And we'll all be happy.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I think where you're part of what the
sentiment is around boomers is that.
The world's crazy today, right?
And it's crazier than it's ever been.
And it's probably harder now to get ahead
than it's ever been.
The opportunities just don't seem as
accessible, even in my generation
and compared to today.
So I think the boomers are getting blamed
for some of the obstacles
and the craziness and the chaos that
exists in the world.
So, for instance, when I first started in
technology, I worked for a company
that was based in the US.
Those jobs are gone.
They're all offshore.
It's India. It's China. It's in Mexico.
It's Thailand where anywhere but here.
And people are blaming
boomers for that kind of stuff.
And whether that's fair or not, that's
where I think the boomers start to get
a bad rap is mostly in probably that
corporate or
professional life of opportunity.
I don't you know,
would you agree with that?
The boomers gave those jobs away.
Yeah, that the boomers, the boomers are
still in control is the perception.
And because things are hard, not easy.
The boomers are at are to
blame is what I think it is.
OK. And they're waiting for
the boomers to pass the baton.
Yeah, I think.
Yeah, but what's going to happen when the
boomers are gone and what?
What they're going to ship
the jobs from China over here?
No. And that's why I think
it's an interesting thing.
I tend to agree that
boomers, your generation
and the what's the one before them?
Silent generation, there is a system in
place that's pretty crazy,
but you just got to work hard.
And I think if you work hard enough and
you get some lucky breaks,
everything works out.
But that's a Gen X guy saying that.
I don't know if that's the mentality that
everyone still carries.
Right. Just work hard,
work hard, figure it out.
Sleep less, work harder.
Right. Things will work out.
I couldn't agree with you more.
But I don't think the
younger generation see it that way.
Yeah, yeah, that's what you're saying.
And so there's that's
what I think is a disconnect.
And she gives me a hard time because I my
advice to younger kids is sleep less.
You don't sleep for older guys.
Well, you sleep when you're a baby and
maybe you sleep when you're older.
But it's sleeps overrated.
Work your ass off. Yeah. Work harder.
He's about the grind.
Yeah. Yeah.
Actually, when you're 20 and you're 20s
and 30s and you're physically able to do.
Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Work three jobs.
Yeah. But I don't I don't know if I don't
I don't think that
they've integrated that
somewhere along the line.
The idea of the grind got lost because
people are making too much money
being reality stars.
I think social media.
Well, or tech too. Right.
Tech, if you work, what's that company?
The I should know this off the top of my
head, but you go out to Silicon Valley,
you're making three, four, five hundred
thousand dollars in salary.
And then you get stock options that are
worth a few million bucks.
We get these young millionaires at a very
young age that are smart.
But to your point,
there's a lot of money.
Yeah, but they're smart.
I mean, I don't begrudge them.
I mean, as long as they're smart and
they're doing their jobs,
I don't care if they make
50 million dollars a year.
Yeah, I agree.
You know, you got some people that are
that are twenty five, thirty years old.
They're Bitcoin
multimillionaires from Bitcoin.
Yeah, I didn't know shit about Bitcoin.
I'm just a little.
I'm just a little more. Yeah.
Yeah. You know, same.
If I would have put 10 grand
into Bitcoin in 10 years ago
or built a computer and
mined it for free. Right. Right.
Yeah. You know, God bless them. You know.
Yeah. Yeah. No, I think that I
I wish that the younger generations
didn't vilify boomers the way they do,
because I think it cuts down on the
communication that could be going on
across generations, but
instead of making them the villain
and the situation when
that's just too simple.
But that's a victim mentality.
You've got to blame somebody.
If you're a victim,
you've got to blame somebody.
But getting back real quick, because I
know you probably have to wrap up.
No, we're good. We're good.
My relationship with my daughters, we
were talking about how close we are.
Like I was getting around my daughter.
My daughter was like,
dad, I know you tell me
I'm going to make like a and I really
believe it by the time she's 30.
She'll be 26 in June.
That the way she's climbing up the
corporate ladder, I tell her,
by the time you're 30, you're going to be
making a quarter of a million dollar
a year salary. Yeah.
Not my mind. And
the other day she was complaining.
She went to Ben's deli and she got like a
matzo ball soup and a sandwich.
And it was like $30.
So she's like, it's expensive to live.
I go, OK, I go, this is
what we're going to do.
I go, let's set up a camera.
Let's set up an only
fan's page and you're right.
Right. I'm just kidding.
I don't mean it. Yes.
That's just kind of really. Yeah.
She she she knows my sense of humor.
Yeah. She's like, right.
I go, hey, if you stop
knocking down 50, $100,000 a month,
mommy will be like, I'll
run the camera for you.
Yeah. Yes.
But that's the type of
humor and open communication
that you have to have. Right.
So that they're always talking to you.
And they're in this and look at you a
boomer knowing about that.
That's an option. Only right.
Well, he knew about the only fifth. Yeah.
We won't go into that.
Now, I think there's a lot more
commonality across the generation,
the younger generations and boomers than
the younger generations realize.
But the victim mentality that you brought
up, I think, is part of it.
Well, what I think people don't realize,
too, at a younger age,
there's a lot of boomers out there
willing to be mentors
and share their knowledge. Yeah.
But I don't know if it gets tapped into.
I do that. I do that.
You know, I work with your son.
Yeah. Yeah.
And then they they they come to me.
Some guys come to me for advice.
And I just tell them, like, especially
when you're in sales,
I just say to them, number
one, pitch with enthusiasm.
Be excited about what you're selling.
Know your product. Yeah.
And act like you're the
biggest sales guy on the sales floor
because they don't know.
Act like you don't need their business,
but you want their business.
Yeah. Like, you know,
because if you come from abundance,
you know, it comes through even even if
it's a phone job, it will come through.
That's great advice. Yeah.
You know, that's that's it.
You have to be
enthusiastic. Work hard. Yeah.
And but be but you can be delusional if
you're not the biggest guy on the floor.
They don't know that.
They don't know that.
When I was a stockbroker, I
didn't have a pot to piss in.
I first went out on my own and I used to
tell the guy on the
other end of the phone,
listen, I make like a half
a million dollars a year.
I don't have time to waste with you
anymore on the phone.
Either you're going to buy
the stock or you're not. Yeah.
Some days, sometimes they hang up on me
and sometimes they give me an order.
Yeah. You know, that's smart.
Cut to the chase to though. Right.
Because if they are
going to buy, then cool.
It's on if they're not,
they're not move on. Yeah.
That's really great advice because you
could really use that
advice in so many areas
and so many different careers wouldn't
have to just be sales.
Right. You know, but for the younger
generations, because I because it is one.
I always like to ask
people who have gone through it.
What would you tell the end?
So what you just said that you tell your
the guys you work with any
anybody in a career
could use that advice.
It doesn't have to just apply to sales,
but, you know, just be what you want to.
Act already that you're there.
Act like you already have made it. Right.
And no one's going to know the difference
and it will play out for you
no matter what you're doing. So I think
that's great advice.
What what advice have you given your
daughters around what they should do?
Or did they just gravitate into the roles
they're at or their career decisions?
They did. So they did.
My older daughter is in marketing so that
she always knew she went through the
month. She started out working for the
Florida Panthers as an intern.
Cool. But their marketing department.
Then then she got the job with a
promotional company in Nashville
and she moved out
there up there for a year.
And then she got even a better offer.
And now she's a marketing
director with Live Nation.
Oh, nice. Nice people.
So and my other daughter, she graduated.
She just graduated
from UCF, a history major.
So you can do you can be
a teacher or professor.
Yeah, or lawyer or lawyer.
You got to go to grad school for that.
That's why she still
might grow to grad school.
Yeah, I doubt it.
The kids will chase her out.
Yeah. She's close, man.
So be like, I've had enough of this.
Yeah. And this is the first
year she just started teaching.
Oh, geez. And I guess when
did the school year start?
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Oh, my God.
The book I said, maybe next year your
classes will be better.
Who your daughter's teaching?
That isn't their Gen Alpha.
Their Gen Alpha. Yeah.
Oh, the 14, 15 year old Gen Alpha.
I think so.
Are you getting the Greek alphabet?
Yeah. Or they're the last.
No, they're calling them
Gen Alpha or they're the last.
The very last of the Gen
Z goes to 2012, I think.
So I think she's got she might have the
last of the Gen Z's.
And then the next one grade she'll be
getting is Gen Alpha.
And they say Gen Alpha.
They say Gen Alpha is smart.
That's what I'm
hearing that they're smart.
And they're quick.
No, we're Gen Z.
OK. All of them.
But I don't know if we'll be curious what
your daughter finds,
but that they're very quick and I have no
doubt they're smart kids.
Yeah. That there's technology.
Technologically smart for sure.
So I'll be curious what she thinks.
But OK, now, do you
have any more questions?
No, no, I'm good.
So the last question I always ask is,
where do you see yourself in five years?
Well, like I said before,
maybe retired, maybe not.
I don't know. Yeah.
I don't know.
Maybe I'll pick up golf in another year
and I'll absolutely love it.
And I'll be good at it.
I don't see that happening because golf
is a sport that set you up to fail.
Yeah. You know, seriously,
you see some of the best golf.
And I've golfed the last time I golfed, I
did something that was like
like what's the word I'm looking for?
The trajectory.
It was like the side, the law of physics.
I addressed the ball.
I had my club out.
I kept my arm straight.
The swing felt great.
The ball went behind me.
I'm like, that's like
that's like not possible. Right.
And you know, you did too high.
Yeah. And I don't know.
You just talk about keeping
your mental stimulation.
Hopefully on a beach.
Yeah. Yeah.
And here that's
definitely possible where you live.
Yeah. So although do you guys go to the
beach that much here?
No. Yeah.
No one that lives here does.
No, I told I told my
daughters I go from what I'm seeing.
Like, you know, I'll
mess around on Instagram.
I'll watch those TikTok videos.
Some of them are funny. Yeah.
And I don't have a dog, but some of those
dog videos are so cute.
Yeah. With the little babies.
Now they they put a
blanket on the little babies.
Yeah. Just cracks me up.
Just when I'm on the toilet
gives me something to watch.
So so.
But the shit I'm seeing that's in the
ocean, I don't want it.
Yeah. The sharks like only in Dave, you
know, they they have the thing.
Sharks like 10 feet or off the beach.
I'm like, you know, there's
some big shit in there now.
I'll go to the pool. Yeah. Yeah.
But I'll take a walk on a beach.
You know, you know.
Did you see that one fish that come only
lives down in the deepest,
deepest, deepest part of the
ocean and never sees daylight
and has like that thing hanging over with
the fake light to attract?
Like poison. Well, I don't know what this
they have, like, like teeth,
really sharp teeth. And it was in the
actually they had one of the fish
and finding Nemo be that fish.
But it has like a light to attract prey.
And it it swam up and people were seeing
it for like the first time ever.
This was like a month ago on social
media, two months ago.
And it was swimming to the
surface and it was was a big.
Well, OK, so that's the thing.
It looks big in the video in the videos.
But then when people showed the pictures,
it was like a little fish.
It wasn't that big.
I saw it's a super rare,
weird looking prehistoric thing
that lives in the bottom of
the ocean and its surface.
Yeah. But what you're thinking about the
poisonous one, those are those lines.
Yeah, those are where are
those all over the Caribbean?
Yeah, golf. Yeah.
The keys. They have bounties out for
their they're an invasive species.
They're poisonous and
they reproduce like crazy.
So now people go out, there's bounties
here to go go kill them and catch them
and cook them. I need to
be sitting in the kayak
and seeing the fucking
whale breach the water.
And I know I know I
need to see those videos.
You know what's cool?
If you go down to the Deerfield Pier at
night, there's hammerheads.
Yeah. Right.
You're pulling 20 feet from the shore.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Now, go a nice swimming.
Yeah, I mean, I do like it in the summer
because it's warm, but I don't know.
Yeah. I kind of watch around.
Oh, I'm out there. I'm not completely.
I'm not saying I'll
never go into the ocean, but,
you know, scuba diving, snorkeling.
I won't do that anymore.
All right. So you might be retired. Yeah.
Maybe playing golf.
Maybe a grandfather.
Maybe probably too soon.
You never know. Five years.
Now am I young?
If she stays teaching.
If you're right.
One for that generation, if they can meet
someone with the whole dating apps
and everything, maybe I've
been put St. Lucie retired.
Or maybe up north and
maybe like St. Augustine.
So do you like a nice little beach town
just like you and your wife
not see yourself retiring here in Boca?
No, she's kind of sick of Boca.
I saw Micah. It's
getting crowded down here.
I know. I know.
It's getting crazy.
It's not. Yeah, it's crazy.
I, you know, to cross for 41,
like I have to go up like a I
have to go up towards glaze.
I live right between Palmetto
and Glades and for 41. Right.
So so if I want to go to Palmetto, I have
to go up about a quarter of a mile.
Make a U turn.
This is if I want to go to
the target on for 41. Yeah.
But then to come out of target,
it would be quicker
for me to walk to Target
than it would to come out from the
oncoming traffic, making the U turn.
It's so crowded.
Like they run over, though,
trying to cross the street.
Yeah, you might.
They're trying to completely change East
Boca to East Boca is getting crazy.
It's the whole one.
Now they put a Whole Foods and much spoke
of that uptown Boca.
Have you been there with
the Lenoir's restaurant?
But they put a Whole Foods.
How are they going to handle that?
Because you can't even park
there to go to like it's not.
You're not. Yeah, you have to go there.
I tried to go there like
an idiot right after work
when everyone is like
shopping for dinner or something.
I was like, I got anxiety.
I walked in. I was like, I'm not.
I'll go somewhere else.
No, it's good. It's getting really
crowded and they just
keep building and building.
So you guys will
probably say in Florida, though,
just maybe find a
different area. Go north.
Yeah. In Florida. Yeah.
I'm not you know, I'm I'm
I'm with the cold. Yeah. Yeah.
My sister, my oldest
sister has a beautiful place in
North Myrtle Beach.
That's nice, but it gets cold up there.
I'm not dumb. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm dumb with the cold.
Yeah. No, I agree.
I don't I don't I don't
like it under 50 anymore.
Well, and that's cold. Yeah.
But once you live in Florida, you get
used to the temperatures here.
It's easy living. It's hard to leave.
Yeah. It really is. Yeah.
So that's why I'm never
like my sister and Laura
was done a couple of months ago.
She's like, you don't
miss living in New York.
Not at all. Yeah.
Yeah. Not an option. No.
No, he was he was once he was
out, he was never going back.
Yeah. Yeah. I never look back now.
Well, I think that's
a good five year plan.
I think it's great.
Retired golf in the beach.
Yeah. You know, maybe doing
a little private
investigator work on the side.
Probably not. I'll probably be my knees
won't let me sit in a car
for eight hours in August.
And maybe a grandpa, maybe. Maybe.
Maybe you never know.
I think that's awesome.
That's I mean, yeah, we
can't thank you enough for sure.
You're going to rock shows.
Yes. So going to rock shows.
So going. Although I don't know.
We'll say in August in amphitheater.
Have you been there? No.
We're going for the first time in two
weeks and supposedly it's beautiful.
Oh, yeah. And they get a lot of acts.
So if you and your wife end up in St.
Augustine, you'll see.
We're going to see.
We're going up to see
Billy Strings for three days.
Oh, OK. Three nights.
Yeah. But that amphitheater
is supposed to be amazing.
I'm excited to see it. So now you got you
always have to have.
If you're into music and you go to live
music, you can't stop doing that.
It's such a healthy outlet.
It's such a good outlet to keep going.
And whenever we go, we're
like, we need to do this more.
Kind of like the beach,
which we don't do. Yeah. Yeah.
But we can't thank you
enough for sharing your story.
Having me is just so interesting.
Like everything from the start in in
Queens and your family
all the way to here.
It's quite the journey. Yeah,
it was, you know, it was fun.
Yeah. And your perspective.
Yes, that's what I tell
the younger generation to.
Yeah. I go you're 30 now.
Before you know it,
you're going to be 50.
It's crazy. It's crazy.
And the older you
get, the quicker it goes.
It's so true. It's even nutty.
So yeah, we keep saying it really does.
50 is the new 30.
That's what I keep saying.
No. And I feel like
we keep changing aging.
Like, you know, you I wouldn't guess
you're a boomer
looking at you and people.
I don't know if they they
probably guess we're Gen X,
but we don't look like the Golden Girls.
You know, I'm trying to say like in the
80s, people that were 45 looked 65.
Yeah. Like they allowed themselves, I
don't know, to just age differently,
where I think at least the younger
boomers and the Gen Xers.
I think they just were waiting to die.
You you get older.
And next thing you do is die.
For all of us, we're like, I'm not I
don't want to die. I want to live.
Yeah. I think people are a lot more
health conscious today.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, you're not
a lot of people drinking soda
like they used to. Yeah.
There's a lot less smokers. Yeah.
A lot less alcohol.
I saw a statistic like this generation is
drinking so much less alcohol.
They are than the boomers.
There's more weed, though. Yeah.
So there's a shift there. Yeah.
No, they're the I know the alcohol
companies and the
wine companies are like,
yeah, scrambling. Yeah.
Because it's affecting them.
But you have a good point.
I think it's more of a wellness, health
conscious, you know,
and we just keep reinventing ourselves
and keep living and
challenging ourselves.
Where, to your point, I think a lot of
our grandparents
would just sit in a chair
and watch TV and spend
their old age like that.
If all anoscopy starting at 40. Yes. Yes.
So don't wait till you're 50.
And it used to be 50, but now I think
it's 40. Yeah. Yeah.
So I think we're redefining
it, you know, keeping things fun.
But thank you.
You know, I think it's good for our
listeners to hear boomers perspective.
Yeah. To have that, you know, I want to
to cross generations to show that,
you know, boomers, they're nice and
they're approachable and they're,
you know, they're not selfish and they
are thinking of the younger generations
because I think there needs to be more
cross communication between Gen Z
and boomers and
millennial millennials and boomers.
So I think your story.
Millennials. I love people. Yeah.
As long as you're happy,
I'm happy. Yeah. Really.
That's the way I feel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And I think that the boomers are not out
to get the younger generations
where I think that
sometimes that's how they feel.
And I don't know where that
narrative came from. Yeah.
That they're out to that they
don't care about them. Yeah.
That they don't care about
what they're going through,
that the boomers just care about
themselves, like I said. So.
I've not found that I have a couple of
friends that are guys
and they care very
deeply because they have kids.
Right. Your your daughters
are embarking on their lives.
They're still right. Well,
like I said, we all care.
They're going to be
running the country. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know
where it came from, but it's.
I think it's the construct that exists in
the world of how this
just how things operate,
right? You got to wake up.
You got to go to a
job or whatever that is.
The nine to five, whatever that is. And.
People want things faster, maybe easier.
And they're blaming the boomers for
creating this situation.
That could be it, though.
What you're saying is also the speed of
satisfaction of gratification
and not accepting the way the old people
did it, that type of thing.
The long journey, not a quick race.
Well, conversations like this will
hopefully start to break that.
Whatever is going on there.
So again, thank you
for sharing your story.
Thank you so much.
Had a great time. So did we. Thank you.
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